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Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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As others have said, I think the value for the Kindle is pretty damn high. * Works in lots and lots of countries * Great iOS and Android apps to supplement reading on Eink * Well-priced devices, even if you pay to remove ads, that offer years and years of software support and are extremely durable/reliable * Great hacking community and ability to use things like DeDRM to bring your purchases to other devices * Insane…

Yeap, I definitely prefer Kobo. I plug it into my PC to copy over public domain and DRM-free ePubs with ease, or DRMed ePubs via ADE. I am not tied to any ecosystem. As for the development community, I feel far more secure knowing my Kobo is not locked down. There are no cat-and-mouse games being played with encryption or other protection mechanisms. Modifying the software is a matter of creating a tarball or by popp…

Hey, if you’re happy with what you’re using, that’s great. I’ve put hacks or modified OSes on various Kindles over the years, used DeDRM for Calibre, and very much had a solid experience.

I also have a Remarkable 2 and a Boox Note Air that are obviously much more hackable.

I’ve reviewed many Kobo devices over the years. I do find them second-rate compared to what you can get from the Kindle line. That's my honest opinion. That isn’t me feeling insecure about my decision (I am an e-reader enthusiast and have reviewed dozens of devices and have the money to buy whatever device I want. I think Sony made the best devices if I’m really being honest, and they shut down their storefront over a decade ago and barely sell any units now), it’s my personal opinion and I said “I’ve always seen it as” — I didn’t declare that as fact. You disagree, which is fine!

I’m glad we have a choice of things. I still stand by my opinion that if I’m going to be tied down into an ecosystem, I’d rather be tied down to the one with the most books. And where I live, that’s Amazon.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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The ridiculous pricing of ebooks on Amazon in the last few years has forced me to alternate sources. I'm not interested in paying through the nose for something that's far cheaper to distribute than a printed book. In today's market Kindle doesn't offer any value proposition.

An ebook is only marginally cheaper to distribute than a printed book. If you're doing a reasonable sized print run, it's only going to cost you a dollar or two to print a book. Most of the cost is in labor to write and edit the book, which still needs to happen for ebooks.

Printing is only one of many costs, though. Shipping, returns, expen$ive retail space for physical inventory, salary and benefits for retail clerks, utilities, insurance, shoplifting losses...

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #164

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If you buy a kindle that is specifically advertised as having ads(and therefore being sold for less money), then yes, you will get ads. If you don't want them, buy the ad free version. And the deletion from your library happened...once? Over millions of titles available?

Can't believe there is such a thing of having an Ereader with ads. Ok it's cheaper but come on, that really shows us how low they think of us. I can understand for a free product but for something you pay ... like seriously!

Both Kobo and Kindle include ads on their home screen. Heck, they even have complete storefronts built in. While I realize this isn't what most people mean by ads, I'm a bit old fashioned and don't see much of a difference.

If you want something that is truly ad-free, try the KOReader software.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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I very consciously did not buy a Kindle when choosing an Ereader about a year ago. The Kobo H2O is incredible and has served me very well. The format support is wonderful, and the stock OS does more than I need (though there is a whole community of custom OSes that also look cool). Combined with Calibre, I don't even see what the Kindle value prop is.

As others have said, I think the value for the Kindle is pretty damn high. * Works in lots and lots of countries * Great iOS and Android apps to supplement reading on Eink * Well-priced devices, even if you pay to remove ads, that offer years and years of software support and are extremely durable/reliable * Great hacking community and ability to use things like DeDRM to bring your purchases to other devices * Insane…

I'm on a Kobo H20 as well after upgrading from a Kindle many years and several devices ago.

* Also works in lots of countries

* Great iOS and Android apps

* Well-priced devices, and no ads to remove

* Great hacking community (even complete replacement software) and DeDRM support

* Insanely robust library that has never let me down

* Ability to easily side-load content without needing a send-to feature (plug it in and drag/drop, or use Calibre)

* No Audible, but (a) it's an ereader not an audio player (it does actually do mp3s though) and (b) Kobo have an audiobook store

So all in all, the Kobo has worse audiobooks but better hacking and side-loading. Even if you prefer Kindle over Kobo, it is clearly not second-rate. And as for the last comment about being tied into an ecosystem, that's purely an Amazon thing. Kobo don't require that kind of acquiescence.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #197

I very consciously did not buy a Kindle when choosing an Ereader about a year ago. The Kobo H2O is incredible and has served me very well. The format support is wonderful, and the stock OS does more than I need (though there is a whole community of custom OSes that also look cool). Combined with Calibre, I don't even see what the Kindle value prop is.

The kindle's value prop is that it has existed for a while and I'm pretty sure my 8y old model would still work if I hadn't left it on a plane. So I bought a used one from a friend and that's been working for many years. I see no reason to upgrade e-readers all the time. I'm not telling you or anyone to buy a Kindle, but from a VERY quick look my Kindle cost half of what a Kobo costs (tolino seems to be available aro…

I still use my 8-year-old Kobo Aura, it's showing no signs of failing yet.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #373

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeap, I definitely prefer Kobo. I plug it into my PC to copy over public domain and DRM-free ePubs with ease, or DRMed ePubs via ADE. I am not tied to any ecosystem. As for the development community, I feel far more secure knowing my Kobo is not locked down. There are no cat-and-mouse games being played with encryption or other protection mechanisms. Modifying the software is a matter of creating a tarball or by popp…

Hey, if you’re happy with what you’re using, that’s great. I’ve put hacks or modified OSes on various Kindles over the years, used DeDRM for Calibre, and very much had a solid experience. I also have a Remarkable 2 and a Boox Note Air that are obviously much more hackable. I’ve reviewed many Kobo devices over the years. I do find them second-rate compared to what you can get from the Kindle line. That's my honest opi…

Sony. Ah yes, I feel the nostalgia kicking in. The PRS all metal range were superb (in their time of course).

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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Amazon chose MOBL because it was compatible with the PRC format the old Palm Pilots used. The Palm Pilot was the original eBook reader.

No it wasn't. The original eBook reader was the Rocket eBook reader. The books were html 3.3 files.

Uhh…the Rocket didn’t come out until 1998.

Sony’s 1992 Data Discman would beat that by 6 years.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #122

I very consciously did not buy a Kindle when choosing an Ereader about a year ago. The Kobo H2O is incredible and has served me very well. The format support is wonderful, and the stock OS does more than I need (though there is a whole community of custom OSes that also look cool). Combined with Calibre, I don't even see what the Kindle value prop is.

I have a couple of thousand books on my ageing Kindle. Looking for a new ereader, will check out Kobo. Do you buy books from Kindle and convert them to ePub?

The Kobo book store is smaller than Amazon's, but still huge. The UI may look different, but it is still the same process of search/browse, buy/preview. Either on the web site or from the device.

All the talk of conversions and Calibre etc in the thread is possibly muddying the waters as it is totally unnecessary if you just want to mirror the Kindle flow.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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Yeah, which is pretty incredible from PR perspective and I can't believe Amazon let that happen in the first place.

I don't think Amazon actually had a realistic choice there. The edition of 1984 in question was pirated. Amazon could either remove it, or face a massive fine for distributing pirated material.

Ah, right. Didn't know that!

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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I very consciously did not buy a Kindle when choosing an Ereader about a year ago. The Kobo H2O is incredible and has served me very well. The format support is wonderful, and the stock OS does more than I need (though there is a whole community of custom OSes that also look cool). Combined with Calibre, I don't even see what the Kindle value prop is.

I can click a single button on Amazon and get a book pushed to my kindle in < 30 seconds. How is that not an incredible value proposition?

It is. It just isn't unique to Amazon.

That's exactly how Kobo do it too, from their own bookstore on the web or from the device itself.

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