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PGPP – Pretty Good Phone Privacy

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Post by distantsounds » Mon, Aug 08, 2022, 11:04 PM UTC

PGPP – Pretty Good Phone Privacy
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Re: PGPP – Pretty Good Phone Privacy

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Post by infocollector » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 1:10 AM UTC

This looks pretty interesting. The Beta launched today (for Android - claims it does no tracking of your cell phone data/location), and I am already tempted. If anyone is trying this out, please let us know the pros/cons of this product?

Re: PGPP – Pretty Good Phone Privacy

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Post by throwaway67743 » Tue, Aug 09, 2022, 1:56 PM UTC

infocollector wrote: post #2

This looks pretty interesting. The Beta launched today (for Android - claims it does no tracking of your cell phone data/location), and I am already tempted. If anyone is trying this out, please let us know the pros/cons of this product?

While it's kinda cool (but not really anything special, likely just reprovisions the software UICC profile) - it fails to mention that the device IMEI still remains the same (as per regulations), so it can still easily be tracked (IMSI doesn't technically need to be unique/single use, but the IMEI must)

Re: PGPP – Pretty Good Phone Privacy

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Post by max-b » Thu, Aug 11, 2022, 5:52 PM UTC

infocollector wrote: post #2

This looks pretty interesting. The Beta launched today (for Android - claims it does no tracking of your cell phone data/location), and I am already tempted. If anyone is trying this out, please let us know the pros/cons of this product?

There's a lot more info on this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32399347

Re: PGPP – Pretty Good Phone Privacy

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Post by NoImmatureAdHom » Fri, Aug 12, 2022, 12:16 AM UTC

throwaway67743 wrote: post #3

infocollector wrote: post #2

This looks pretty interesting. The Beta launched today (for Android - claims it does no tracking of your cell phone data/location), and I am already tempted. If anyone is trying this out, please let us know the pros/cons of this product?

While it's kinda cool (but not really anything special, likely just reprovisions the software UICC profile) - it fails to mention that the device IMEI still remains the same (as per regulations), so it can still easily be tracked (IMSI doesn't technically need to be unique/single use, but the IMEI must)

IIRC changing the IMEI in the U.S. is legal. It may go against standards or something, but that's not a crime (though it would be an excuse for a carrier to kick you off their network, should they find out).

I would be shocked if there were real consequences for IMEI spoofing in the U.S. absent any crime (like stealing lots of phones and changing the IMEIs).