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Man who built ISP instead of paying Comcast $50K expands to hundreds of homes

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Re: Man who built ISP instead of paying Comcast $50K expands to hundreds of homes

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I don't see anything wrong with "collectively" deciding that every American citizen should have access to high speed internet access and putting our money where our mouth is. Especially remote areas that are expanding and will become increasingly populated to take advantage of the infrastructure. For most of us, it doesn't cost anywhere near that much to get access so we can handle the rare costs to build out to remo…

The United States is not crowded whatsoever. We have no dense cities other than New York. Nobody is forced to live out in such remote areas, not even refugees. If you choose to live out in the middle of nowhere you’re going to have to pay for all kinds of expensive infrastructure or do without. Why do taxpayers have to cover this particular living expense?

> If you choose to live out in the middle of nowhere you’re going to have to pay for all kinds of expensive infrastructure or do without.

Naturally, people realize that the farther out they get the worse their infrastructure will be. That doesn't mean the US can't or shouldn't set some minimum standards for what's acceptable. Most people think it's pretty reasonable for every American to have access to broadband. Its in everyone's best interest to make sure all Americans can get online. One nice benefit is that people will be able to spread out a little more and still work from home. That means fewer cars on the road, and fewer harmful emissions hurting the environment. Eliminating the need for commutes will be especially helpful in remote areas because their commutes are often longer than average.

I suspect that at a certain point the US will need to start policing where people are allowed to live more aggressively, but rather than trying to get people to move into dense cities to save a little money in the short term I hope it's used to try to limit the number of people living in a given area according to its biocapacity. Encouraging people to leave areas we expect will be hit hardest by frequent flooding, or fires, or droughts would be helpful too. We waste a lot money rebuilding over and over after predictable events. I can't blame the US government for treading lightly though. People aren't used to the idea of being told that they have to leave their homes and move, let alone being told exactly what parts of the country they have to move to. Probably best to start with people legally immigrating. I'm sure a lot of people would jump at the chance to move to the US even if they weren't assigned their preferred location within in.

Re: Man who built ISP instead of paying Comcast $50K expands to hundreds of homes

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Meanwhile I live in San Francisco and I still can’t get affordable symmetric gigabit fiber internet to my home.

That's nuts to me.

I live in a town of ~15k people in a Southern state, and I have symmetric gigabit. Granted, I pay ~$110/mo, but I have the option of symmetric 300Mbps for ~$50/mo. Neither plan has a data cap.

Then again, I chose my home based on the local ISPs' physical network topology. I didn't rely on their service maps, either - I physically went to their installation folks and got a copy of their maps.

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> Jared Mauch is expanding with the help of $2.6 million in government money. > Mauch told us he provides free 250Mbps service to a church that was previously having trouble with its Comcast service. That's interesting, he's taking money from the government and giving free internet to a religious organization? Do all "churches" get free internet or just the ones he prefers? Taxpayers are OK subsidizing a specific chu…

He picked a charity to help and this is your response? He won a government contract to with specific deliverables. I'm not sure how he would have any responsibilities beyond those deliverables.

ah you're right, I had misinterpreted, thinking that he got a grant from the government for the public good, i missed that he just won a contract with them. my comment was based on my misconception that the government was subsidizing him as a public utility.

my comment is past the delete button so that's that.

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The thing I can't really understand if this is the argument is where the money is actually going? With an on paper 11% profit margin it's certainly isn't shareholders, and even if the executives rake it would still be a blip in their total revenue.

It is precisely shareholders and executives. 11% profit margin but huge share buybacks, bonuses and acquisitions.

Share buybacks and acquisitions come from post profit money, not pre profit, so they won't impact the margin. They're not a line item in operating expenses.

Bonuses and other remuneration will, but no executives are getting $5 billion annual bonuses there and ~$million bonuses won't move the needle.

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Last mile subsidies are super weird. I was looking at a property in montana in the middle of nowhere that had no electricity nearby, but had gigabit fiber. I called the ISP and it was cheaper to get phone+Gb than just Gb due to subsidy rules. Basically everyone out there (including me) is on starlink now. Turns out the subsidies were not only inefficient, but pretty pointless.

Why would you be using Starlink if you have gigabit fiber available? Or was it still quite expensive to install even with the subsidy?

I didn't get that property sadly.

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You get bigger machines, which do work faster.

And you dig smaller trenches with them. Microtrenching digs a foot deep and two inch wide hole for direct bury fiber cable, saving time and money over older techniques.

Only a foot deep? My sprinkler system is deeper than that.

ATT recently did fiber by my house with some kind of machine. It did some kind of U shaped trench, where it drilled down (not sure how deep), then over about 200 feet, and back up. So you only see a hole every 200 or so feet, vs a solid trench. Let them go under driveways and all of that.

A team of 4 guys was able to do my entire neighborhood in a day. Still waiting for ATT to actually wire up the fiber, until them I am stuck with comcast cable (which is fine ,except the data cap doesn't scale with speed, so the faster connections cap cap you out in like 15 minutes).

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Alternatively, you could finance the hospital, fire depart, or whatever without an middle man siphoning off "their fair share" This has already been tried. People used to subscribe to fire service, or ambulance service. It doesn't work, and is also bad for society. If you want people to only use the things they directly pay for, and not pay for shared things through taxes, then only drive on your own driveway. Don't…

> People used to subscribe to fire service, or ambulance service. It doesn't work, and is also bad for society. That's interesting - FEMA says that 70% of the fire departments in the US are all-volunteer, and >90% have a volunteer component. https://apps.usfa.fema.gov/registry/summary#g I've lived in areas with volunteer fire departments that paid for their operations primarily with "fire dues" for most of my life. A…

Subscription fire departments and volunteer fire departments aren't the same thing. I know all about volunteer fire departments, and have worked with them in the past.

Subscription fire departments were commercial entities, sometimes run by insurance companies, to which you paid a regular subscription fee. If you house was on fire, they'd extinguish the flames. If your neighbor's house was on fire, and they didn't subscribe, then they let it burn.

Citing a completely different thing does not refute what I wrote. It just illustrates that you don't fully understand the issue.

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That also depends on the X, from my experience working at FAANGs, startups, etc... I have never seen a 10x engineer in good teams, I have only seen "10x engineers" on teams without great engineers. The comparison with sports and music is pretty silly, as those are environment where the winner(s) take all (there can only be one Billie Eillish (lol) even tho there are many singers who are better), engineering is often…

I’ve seen too many prolific engineers who destroy the confidence and productivity of people around them. These are not people you want to aspire to be.

Yeah, I also think is way more common in smaller companies. Also extreme toxicity around tools, editors, .... stuff like "10x engineers" only use Vim (the classic "i dont need a mouse, thats for normies"), the command line, Arch Linux, etc... In bigger companies, with talented engineer, no single engineer can claim to be the best/10x-er or any nonsense like that, because whatever he does, can also be done(and often improved) by the team. That's why I said that depends on the X. You can certainly have a 10Y engineer where Y = 1/10*X;
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