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Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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I have a very old Kindle (3rd gen, ~12 years old) and I am unsure how it will be impacted by this. My understanding was that Kindles didn't support EPUB files. It seems that Amazon now intend to roll out support for EPUB, but I highly doubt a model as old as mine will get an update. So it seems that for now, while Amazon are just converting EPUBs to MOBI behind the scenes, everything will continue working. But if dow…

You can always convert EPUB to MOBI yourself using Calibre. I often have to convert the other way (EPUB to AZW3) with a newer kindle.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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getting files to kindle for me this summer vacation 2-3 weeks ago was major PITA, I took kindle for kid and first USB cable in drawer unaware that this particular USB cable is only for charging and can't do data transfer, since i use only USB C and kindle doesn't support it my kindle has no amazon account, because I am sideloading everything offline, prety much not using anything online on kindle so when I figured ou…

TIL Calibre has own web/content server which should be accessible from Kindle experimental browser, so could save myself trouble transferring files back and forth through mobile

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I'm very confused about what file format(s) Kindle actually supports. * They are dropping support for MOBI from their Send to Kindle website and apps. * They are adding support for ePub in their Send to Kindle website and apps, but apparently they will be converted to Kindle format (MOBI? AZW?) under the hood. * Several sites mention AZW3 as the official Kindle format. Is that the same as MOBI? * It is unclear whethe…

For local storage just use Calibre and stop worrying about formats IMO. Drag whatever into Calibre, press send to device, end of story.

I bought Code 2e from the MS press store just this week.

I downloaded the epub, Calibre converted it to mobi when I said to deliver to my 2014 Kindle. Looked kinda crappy.

Downloaded the mobi direct, sent it to the Kindle. Looks much better.

The conversions are not always quality.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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99% of this difficulty goes away if Grandma uses her phone or tablets browser to download unlimited free books from zlibrary and reads them on the same device. Honestly the grandma example is starting to feel dated. When I was born in 1980 a 50 year old grandma was born in 1930 and probably didn't own a TV until they were raising their own family. The same 50 year old today was born in 1972 and would have been 5 when…

Grandmas are 70-90, not 50. At that point we're still close to the second world war, which is a very different path. Those folks simply cannot be expected to have any competence. As an aside, I work with many folks around 50 and most of them are functionally technologically illiterate. It doesn't seem like such a strange assumption to make from where I'm sitting.

My son's grandparents are 55-63, and his one great grandparent is 76

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If you buy a kindle that is specifically advertised as having ads(and therefore being sold for less money), then yes, you will get ads. If you don't want them, buy the ad free version. And the deletion from your library happened...once? Over millions of titles available?

The title that got removed was 1984, you can't make this stuff up https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18am...

Totally agree that the optics on this were horrendous. And Amazon admitted as much 13 years ago.

The only slight thing I’ll say in their defense is that since the uploaded (it was through a self-service system) didn’t have the rights to upload those books (essentially, a third-party pirated the book, uploaded it to Amazon’s servers and then sold the book they didn’t have rights to), I understand the thought process that you’d delete and refund. It’s not like this was a legitimate book they removed. It was literally pirated. Removing books from purchaser’s devices was absolutely the wrong move and has created negative PR for Amazon for 13 years because of one bad decision. But Amazon has admitted it was the wrong move and to my knowledge hasn’t done it again.

In fact, there are a number of books I’ve bought from Amazon over the years that are no longer available on Kindle for a variety of reasons (sometimes publishers pull them, sometimes authors) that I can still download retroactively to any of my devices. So if I’m going to be locked into any ecosystem, and this is just me, I’d rather be locked into the ecosystem that has had its DRM cracked pretty succinctly (meaning I can use my purchases on non-Amazon devices or apps) and that has an insanely robust library of books. Oh, and that integrates with my Audible library.

Compare that to iBooks, where the DRM hasn’t been broken (at least, not the current scheme. Some people have had success using insanely old versions of iTunes and DRM rippers from more than a decade ago, but that’s not a reliable or approachable method) and I can’t read any of those books on my Eink devices, or Kobo, which doesn’t have as robust of a library and has always had that weird store-brand Frosted Flakes feeling, and I’m very happy to be inside the Kindle world.

Plus, my Kindle Oasis has truly been a treat. (I said I would never buy one and now have bought two, so jokes on me).

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It's not native, you're right. Many of us have been using Kobocloud for years to automatically sync to cloud drive services: https://github.com/fsantini/KoboCloud

I won't lie, I was excited to see the technical solution here - but this appears to be a stack of horrific shell scripts fixing everything via curl. Is it dependable, in your experience?

koreader really is the way to go.

https://github.com/koreader/koreader/wiki/Installation-on-Ko...

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I switched from a Kindle to a Kobo, and now back to a Kindle. My experience was that the Kindle's responsiveness to changes (next/previous/moving around in the OS) was better, just significant enough to be bothering me when I was using the Kobo.

The latest low end kindle response time is horrendous and the material is slippy. I lost my paperwhite so replaced it last week and the quality has really really dipped. Also it was the cheapest kindle but cost more than I originally spent in my paperwhite… I’m returning it next week when I finish my current book.

Newest version of the Paperwhite is a big step up. The larger screen and better processor are both put to good use.

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I very consciously did not buy a Kindle when choosing an Ereader about a year ago. The Kobo H2O is incredible and has served me very well. The format support is wonderful, and the stock OS does more than I need (though there is a whole community of custom OSes that also look cool). Combined with Calibre, I don't even see what the Kindle value prop is.

Back in 2014, I bought a nook, returned it. I bought a kobo, returned it. I bought a Kindle voyage that I love to this day. #1 reason: out of those three, Kindle is or was the only ebook vendor I could crack with DeDRM and actually own my books. With Kindle for PC 1.17, I can still pull down my books and import them to my Calibre library for safe keeping. Can one DeDRM their Nook or Kobo files in 2022? PS: Kobo typog…

If you have an Eink Kindle, you don’t even need to use the Kindle desktop app to download the book files to use with DeDRM and Calibre. I personally find using the desktop app more of a PITA than just downloading the files, but YMMV.

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> I don't even see what the Kobo value prop is Not having to hack the device you supposedly own to avoid having ads as your screensaver? My Kindle is at the bottom of my closet for that reason. I haven't bought another physical e-reader, but if I do, it won't be a Kindle. I didn't want to go through the process of finding up-to-date instructions, waiting for a hack that would install on my hardware and software versi…

The ad-supported model allows people to buy the kindle for less than the non-ad-supported model. AFAIK you can pay a one-time fee and remove them, or buy the non-ad-supported version in the first place.

There wasn't a choice when I bought mine.
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