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Google’s caste-bias problem

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Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

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Deleted because it’s clear I won’t change anyones mind. People who want to believe that Google is guilty, will believe they are guilty no matter what.

If Google doesn't have a blind spot towards caste bias than why where they unable to even have a talk about it? It seems like it's a topic that cannot be discussed and as such I really doubt it doesn't represent a problem

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#82

Deleted because it’s clear I won’t change anyones mind. People who want to believe that Google is guilty, will believe they are guilty no matter what.

"Google is doing more about any type of inequality than any company on this planet"....

cough...'wealth inequality'...cough

An AP analysis finds that most foreign workers with H-1B visas are paid less than their American counterparts. But for most non-computer science occupations, foreigners are paid more.

https://apnews.com/afs:Content:873580003

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

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As someone doing management in a company that hires many Indian workers, both in on-shore and off-shore teams, this is a highly relevant topic for me. I'm a native western european so I'm likely blind to some extend for these issues. Like the article says, this sounds like harmful class-ism that silences or disadvantages specific groups, but not in an "obviously" racist manner based on skin color. Anyone care to shar…

Isn't being blind to caste distinctions the optimal way to avoid discrimination? It's like a blind audition.

Somehow in $current_year, blind auditions are also racist:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220725001219/https://www.nytim...

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#84
As a US born individual with immigrant parents, I had NO idea how many times I got scoped for my caste. It’s quite amazing how routine simple questions have ulterior motives behind them.

Now that I am a more senior in my career, I’ve made it my mission to always call it out when it happens.

I hope others start doing it as well.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

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post #67

We need to stop calling this a "caste-bias problem" and call it what it is: racism. Just because they're not a distinct ethnicity doesn't mean it's not racism, and the people looking down on others because of their caste are no different than the white guy yelling the n word in traffic. Neither should be tolerated, and if you find yourself working with one, they should be fired. It is antithetical to an open society.

It can all be abstracted into “tribalism”.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

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post #60

>Numerous employees within the company expressed the view that any talk on caste discrimination was offensive to them as Hindus, and made them feel unsafe. >You don’t get to claim or hijack one form of discrimination to perpetuate another form. And yet from the Hindu's perspective, this is exactly what Gupta is doing. The only instances of caste discrimination Gupta can recall are anecdotes of "coded speech". Meanwhi…

The DEI (Diversity, Equity & Inclusion) forum is pretty unambiguously the forum to talk about caste discrimination. What forum is Gupta "highjacking" to talk about caste in your opinion?

The lesson to be learned is, if you are offended by someone saying they experienced oppression/discrimination, really, look inward.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

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post #72

Deleted because it’s clear I won’t change anyones mind. People who want to believe that Google is guilty, will believe they are guilty no matter what.

You don't have to put up with it. Lots of great companies great out there that create a safe space for normal adults like you and I. Vote with your feet and leave.

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Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#89

Deleted because it’s clear I won’t change anyones mind. People who want to believe that Google is guilty, will believe they are guilty no matter what.

"Google is doing more about any type of inequality than any company on this planet".... cough...'wealth inequality'...cough An AP analysis finds that most foreign workers with H-1B visas are paid less than their American counterparts. But for most non-computer science occupations, foreigners are paid more. https://apnews.com/afs:Content:873580003

"most foreign workers" says nothing about Google or Google employees

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

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I always find it funny how there are massive east asian only groups in all major corporate entities. This is not diversity, this is racism. Nice work FANG.

In my university I find that a lot of the Indian and Asian students like to group together and form their own groups. But they also have a big language barrier: they don’t speak English well and in their groups they always communicate natively. They also have a culture barrier as well, combined with the language barrier this makes them seem awkward. So I don’t blame them.

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