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Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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I think we're nearing the end of Amazon not really caring about DRM. AFAIK, the DRM used by latest version of KFX files hasn't been thoroughly broken and it's a cat and mouse game now. There are some less than ideal workarounds (like downloading an older format), but you lose some of the typography improvements that Amazon only supports in KFX. Now that Amazon seems to be interested in strong DRM, I expect a legislat…

Downloading an older format really isn't a high price to pay for getting rid of DRM. But yes, in time, as older devices disappear, this could become a big problem.

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Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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That's not Kindle's only disadvantage. Kobo had distinct features I wanted that no Kindle offered at the time I last purchased. Like a screen big enough to comfortably read PDFs. 10.3" on Kobo Elipsa vs 7" on Kindle. IMHO that makes the Kindle only really useful for fiction. There's also Pocket support for reading offline web articles. Overdrive support so I can borrow books from my local library for free. Free Dropb…

How does the screen on the Elipsa compare to the old Kindle DX screens? I'm babying my pair of old DXs, and it would be nice to have a replacements.

I can't say for sure how they compare but the DX was what I was originally looking for. Unfortunately I've never actually seen a Kindle DX in the wild and they're rare as rocking horse poo on ebay here in the UK.

The Kobo Elipsa is the first ebook reader I've used where I can read PDFs without zooming, which is a game changer for me.

In general I think DX or Elipsa sized screens are more useful for text books even in epub format.

It's much faster than my old Kindle but I was never really that bother about the old Kindle's page turn speed. The Elipsa also has much crisper text but again I thought my anchient Kindle was mostly good enough.

The Kobo search features are much better. My old Kindle's search was too greedy which made it pretty much useless as I couldn't narrow results. e.g. I couldn't search for "act" without getting results for "actor" as well.

The only irk I've had with Kobo is that the default PDF reader doesn't let you set a zoom level to reduce margins as you read. You can zoom in but you need to zoom out again to turn the page.

That's only a very minor issues though, I can still read things fine with the default margins. Installing KOreader or Plato was as simple as dragging a file onto a USB drive and give you every ereader feature you could want including margin stripping PDFs.

I considered a Remarkable 2 but I'm not really one for hand written notes and I wanted a frontlight, which the Elipsa has but the RM2 doesn't.

I actually wish I could have bought the Elipsa without the bundled case or pen as I don't use either. The handwriting to text or drawing to flowchart conversion is fun to play with but it's not something I need, I'm strictly using it as a reading device.

I'd guess that the Elipsa would be a good replacement for a Kindle DX but that's caviated by how you personally want to use it. There's something very pleasing about keeping an old ebook reader going though so it might be fun just to keep using your DXs until they absolutely die and then see what's on the market at the time.

Hope that helps.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #132

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The Kindle is inexpensive, has great support, has a huge library (open to non-US people with non-US credit cards), and you could just email a MOBI to it (which is great if the Kindle owner is your parent). It's only disadvantage was that it did not support ePub and so one had to go through Calibre. Now that Kindle is supporting ePUB and no Calibre-tion is needed, I don't even see what the Kobo value prop is.

>>I don't even see what the Kobo value prop is. It is not amazon encumbered. That is a huge value to many

I had three readers from Sony (until they exited the business) and one from B&N (until they exited the business), because I didn't want to deal with conversion. Of these still in the business, Amazon looks the least-like to exit soon, and now there's no need to deal with conversion.

As most of the books I read are out of copyright anyway, I'm not "encumbering" myself with Amazon in any way, except for buying hardware they made.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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> Combined with Calibre, I don't even see what the Kindle value prop is. Easy purchasing of ebooks from Amazon, combined with their large selection of ebooks.

The ridiculous pricing of ebooks on Amazon in the last few years has forced me to alternate sources. I'm not interested in paying through the nose for something that's far cheaper to distribute than a printed book. In today's market Kindle doesn't offer any value proposition.

An ebook is only marginally cheaper to distribute than a printed book. If you're doing a reasonable sized print run, it's only going to cost you a dollar or two to print a book.

Most of the cost is in labor to write and edit the book, which still needs to happen for ebooks.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #152

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The title that got removed was 1984, you can't make this stuff up https://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18am...

Yeah, which is pretty incredible from PR perspective and I can't believe Amazon let that happen in the first place.

That's what happens when you design systems with no humans in the loop.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #132

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The Kindle is inexpensive, has great support, has a huge library (open to non-US people with non-US credit cards), and you could just email a MOBI to it (which is great if the Kindle owner is your parent). It's only disadvantage was that it did not support ePub and so one had to go through Calibre. Now that Kindle is supporting ePUB and no Calibre-tion is needed, I don't even see what the Kobo value prop is.

>Now that Kindle is supporting ePUB... Kindles do not support ePUB. But you can send ePUBs through the Amazon online conversion service now, which wasn't possible in the past.

There's no magic ASIC on the Kobo that transfers the stream of bytes into the stream of pixels; ePub support is in the Kobo software. Amazon now has this support in their software. The fact that the conversion software runs on Kindle servers (and not on the Kindle device) is insignificant to me - what's important is I can have an ePub and can read it on the Kindle.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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Kobos have this feature

Didn't know that! Can you upload custom dictionaries to them? That was my only gripe with how Kindles do it - they support this feature in some languages but not others.

If you use Koreader then yes there are hundreds of dictionaries you can put.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #132

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The Kindle is inexpensive, has great support, has a huge library (open to non-US people with non-US credit cards), and you could just email a MOBI to it (which is great if the Kindle owner is your parent). It's only disadvantage was that it did not support ePub and so one had to go through Calibre. Now that Kindle is supporting ePUB and no Calibre-tion is needed, I don't even see what the Kobo value prop is.

Kobo appears to be an inferior device on most accounts. Both of my Kobo readers have had glitches, required reboots, and at times had a suspiciously low battery life. The first even just stopped working all of a sudden. But all of it was worth it knowing I wouldn't have to support Amazon's walled garden. Now it's mostly down to "do you support Amazon?", and I'm still not sure if I want a Kindle. I'll keep my Kobo H2O…

> required reboots

I feel like a FreeBSD guru in the 90s, "YOU REBOOT???" but seriously, I don't recall ever having to reboot my Kindle except the time I tried to open a 500MB PDF and I should of known better.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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Umm does this mean I can now “borrow” ebooks from the library? From the point of view that the library borrow systems never supported MOBI but seemed to support other formats.

There is software that can strip out the DRM, but its piracy either way so if that's your preference just go to library genesis and get the book already converted.

Re: Retirement of Amazon MOBI eBook file format

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post #208

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That's not Kindle's only disadvantage. Kobo had distinct features I wanted that no Kindle offered at the time I last purchased. Like a screen big enough to comfortably read PDFs. 10.3" on Kobo Elipsa vs 7" on Kindle. IMHO that makes the Kindle only really useful for fiction. There's also Pocket support for reading offline web articles. Overdrive support so I can borrow books from my local library for free. Free Dropb…

> Like a screen big enough to comfortably read PDFs. IMHO that makes the Kindle only really useful for fiction. There is plenty of non-fiction that doesn't come in PDF form. It is quite readable on a Kindle.

That's true but technical books always felt a bit tight even in landscape orientation on my Kindle.

Things like code or diagrams don't always reformat well and scrolling is a pain in the arse.

Life is just much easier with a bigger screen. Where I'd really come unstuck is when someone gives me a whitepaper or customer documentation that is only in PDF format. No reformating even if you want to.

Amazon used to sell the bigger Kindle DX but they stopped making it. So if you're buying a new device anyway there doesn't seem to be much downside to switching to Kobo, that I've found anyway.

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