Live data from Hacker News

Google’s caste-bias problem

newyorker.com

21–30 of 291 posts

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#21

I always find it funny how there are massive east asian only groups in all major corporate entities. This is not diversity, this is racism. Nice work FANG.

and they get there through working their ass off but that is totally off topic as far as what op was asking.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#22
post #2

Maybe i'm being ignorant, but why don't you just not work for the company that has few or no Indians? Because other nations of course don't know about which last name means which caste or would ever care about it, you won't be a subject for discrimination. And besides, these places will probably pay better anyway.

May be it should be the other way around.

If they have problems to work with lower caste people, they should change their company.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#23
Previous thread on a similar topic (2022): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31593799

And another (2020): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23697083

---

One good resource (imo as an outsider) from the recent one is this:

"As a Dalit myself, I wrote a Dalit 101 for non Indian audience. https://thelit.substack.com/p/dalit-101" by user thelit (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31595663)

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#24
I don't know why Google (or really all the tech companies in SV) aren't taking this far more seriously. I feel like it opens them up to lawsuits and with the weight they hold, a company like Google can easily institute a zero tolerance policy against it. Send a message that if you do this, you're getting kicked to the curb.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#25

(Outside looking in perspective. I am not Indian.) When I worked as a software engineer are capital one earlier in my career, thus was a very noticeable trend. You had entire teams/groups (and to some extent geographical regions given the way the capital one workforce was split between Richmond Virginia, McLean Virginia, and NYC) where particular castes grouped together. It became particularly acute when you took int…

Saw this at American Express. In many cases, VPs and Directors were actually cousins or even siblings. This was a decade ago. Fast forward to now, and they are at the top of many NYC banks running IT divisions, the same group that worked together so many years ago. Theres an invisible network in many large corporations and none of the jobs are available to employees of those corporations

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#26
Caste based discrimination is so subtle, that it is extremely hard to detect by Non-Indians

Why shouldnt the talk be allowed?

What harm could it do to raise awareness about this very practical issue that Dalits face day in and day out for centuries.

Google employees who had this talks cancelled are ultimate COWARDS and should be ashamed of themselves.

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#27
> If you replace the denial of caste discrimination with the denial of the Holocaust or something like that, it instantly clicks where other people start to realize, “Oh, something’s wrong if people are denying this.”

Seems a bit extreme. Even questioning whether caste discrimination in the US or Google is a large problem is enough to get you lumped into Holocaust denial territory.

> People can absolutely discriminate based on caste by essentially denying it and not wanting to learn about it.

What makes discrimination bad is the arbitrary nature. If you don't know the arbitrary classifications of groups, and you're making decisions on something tangible that presumably affects the person's skill set, then is it discrimination if it correlates with some arbitrary distinction you're not aware of?

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#29

I always find it funny how there are massive east asian only groups in all major corporate entities. This is not diversity, this is racism. Nice work FANG.

and they get there through working their ass off but that is totally off topic as far as what op was asking.

Do they? Or do they arrive due to denial of opportunity for equally or greater hard working folks?

Re: Google’s caste-bias problem

#30

Caste based discrimination is so subtle, that it is extremely hard to detect by Non-Indians Why shouldnt the talk be allowed? What harm could it do to raise awareness about this very practical issue that Dalits face day in and day out for centuries. Google employees who had this talks cancelled are ultimate COWARDS and should be ashamed of themselves.

[deleted]
Post reply on HN