Interesting that the colo electricity cost goes up that much, that’s a lot more expensive than what I will pay as a normal consumer, I’d have thought they’d get better discounts.
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#102Just write efficient software, then you won’t need that many servers.
While this is true to a degree, development costs also come into play here. Let's simplify the problem a lot for a moment. Suppose the only thing you care about is cost and the only things you can control are the hardware you're running on and the code it runs. You can optimize your code to use less hardware, which would lower operational costs. But you also have to pay developers to optimize the code. In some cases,…
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#103Just write efficient software, then you won’t need that many servers.
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#104Its fascinating that electricity is really the biggest cost of computing. I put a server in my house which was supposed to save money, but actually the electricity cost was something I hadn't thought of and really adds up. esp when the AC has to run to remove the extra heat. So much old hardware out there but its going to get junked as new hw is more efficient.
Asrock Rack c246 WSI (Mini ITX workstation board) 32GB DDR4 ECC Udimms (16GB x2) Core i3 9100T (25w, low power 4 core part, supports ECC, and quicksync) 6 IronWolf 4TB NAS drives
The 6 drives are in RaidZ2 so give 16TB usable space, and at full pelt the max power consumption is 60W for everything.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
ARM on desktop => ARM for development => ARM on servers => ARM on cloud. Apple's multi-billion contracts with AWS are ending this or next year, Apple has their own power efficient systems and will compete with AWS, as they have to maintain/increase growth.
> Apple has their own power efficient systems and will compete with AWS Are you saying Apple is going to roll out an AWS competitor to the public? I find that highly unlikely.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
AWS has never raised prices on me.
Don't worry they will. At least in Germany :-) Electricity pricing is insane and will only get worse. I doubt AWS will operate a whole region at a loss.
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> Apple has their own power efficient systems and will compete with AWS Are you saying Apple is going to roll out an AWS competitor to the public? I find that highly unlikely.
But you’ll only be allowed to deploy code that’s been reviewed by Apple.
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#108While the pricing is interesting, I think the fact it is driven by the input costs of electricity is even more telling. The fact that electricity costs is the dominating (edit, correction: marginal ) cost of cloud computing basically means that: 1) We're up against physical barriers to lowering the cost (and ecological impact) of our clouds. 2) Optimizing for less compute will pay multi-fold dividends over the next f…
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The article didn't seem to say how much they're raising prices, only that they're raising prices due to electricity. Where are you pulling seeing the price change %? I may need to edit that to marginal , if it's only 10%. :)
First paragraph: "we are forced to increase the prices of many of our products by approximately 10%"