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Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Re: Hetzner Price Adjustment

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Interesting that the colo electricity cost goes up that much, that’s a lot more expensive than what I will pay as a normal consumer, I’d have thought they’d get better discounts.

In colos, the cost of electricity typically also pays for air conditioning since it's a perfect linear relationship - more power goes in, more AC needed to get the heat out.

Plus some overhead costs (but with Hetzner, I'd assume they're minimal - they have razor thin margins).

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon invests a lot in its own wind and solar parks. Because of that, energy prices on the open market shouldn't affect them too much. Read more about that at https://sustainability.aboutamazon.com/environment/renewable...

Interesting, but looking at their map they will go live in Germany in 2025. Which is way too late to ride this out.

Continental Europe has a synchronous power grid, so Amazon can also use electricity produced outside of Germany for its German data centers.

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Germany € 0.29/kWh € 0.45/kWh Finland € 0.12/kWh € 0.22/kWh Damn, why is electricity in Germany over twice as expensive as in Finland? I doubt Germans have twice the purchasing power as Finns.

Gas and oil use for electricity is very low. Electricity is over 85% renewable and nuclear with most of the rest coming as industrial or district heating by products District heating is quite often coal or oil for now but quickly changing to non carbon forms. Here is a real time view of the electricity market in Finland https://www.fingrid.fi/en/electricity-market/power-system/ Germany on the other hand bet heavily i…

Germany already had the highest electricity prices in the world even when gas was cheap. Green energy has become an ersatz-religion here.

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Interesting that the colo electricity cost goes up that much, that’s a lot more expensive than what I will pay as a normal consumer, I’d have thought they’d get better discounts.

I believe in EU household electricity is largely subsidized and the industry always paid more.

In Finland it is the other way around. Household pays the full price with industry paying the same but get huge tax breaks.

Basically residential and companies pay the same but are taxed very differently in a form that ends up with companies paying way less electricity taxes.

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Its fascinating that electricity is really the biggest cost of computing. I put a server in my house which was supposed to save money, but actually the electricity cost was something I hadn't thought of and really adds up. esp when the AC has to run to remove the extra heat. So much old hardware out there but its going to get junked as new hw is more efficient.

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Germany € 0.29/kWh € 0.45/kWh Finland € 0.12/kWh € 0.22/kWh Damn, why is electricity in Germany over twice as expensive as in Finland? I doubt Germans have twice the purchasing power as Finns.

Germany shut down all their nuclear plants about 10 years ago, opting to rely on natural gas from Russia. Finland invested in nuclear and is bringing their latest plant online this fall. It doesn't take a genius to see which one would be hit harder by sanctions on Russian gas.

> Finland invested in nuclear and is bringing their latest plant online this fall.

How exactly has a not yet operating reactor that is vastly over budget and time any influence on the current price though?

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post #37
post #7

Interesting that the colo electricity cost goes up that much, that’s a lot more expensive than what I will pay as a normal consumer, I’d have thought they’d get better discounts.

I believe in EU household electricity is largely subsidized and the industry always paid more.

It’s the other way around, at least in Germany. Households pay more than industry for electricity. https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/Germany/electricity_price...

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Interesting that the colo electricity cost goes up that much, that’s a lot more expensive than what I will pay as a normal consumer, I’d have thought they’d get better discounts.

I believe in EU household electricity is largely subsidized and the industry always paid more.

Nope. Wrong. The economy of scale works also for electricity. We don't have subsidized electricity. The other way around we had additional premiums to pay for green energy. That got yanked and is now paid by the general taxes.
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