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Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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I use /e/ daily as does a co-worker (we aren't working in tech). It's the one piece of alternative software that I'm comfortable recommending to anyone. It "just works" just as much as Android "just works".

But do apps like Uber, WhatsApp etc work ok on it?

I specifically use /e/ because of its seamless microG integration. Even banking apps work great on it.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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I love LineageOS and have used microG services for so long but forks like this strike me as sad as needing to assimilate to the look and feel of iOS. It comes off as cheap and unoriginal. Now this is harsh criticism I understand but I do appreciate how much effort it must have taken to make all of these app forks. I only wish the effort was spent building something more interesting.

> It comes off as cheap and unoriginal.

To me it comes off as Apple fans doing Apple-type shit. I'm not an Apple UI fan, but if someone is, they should imitate what they like instead of trying to invent some entirely new garbage paradigm, without any particular inspiration, when they really just wanted to make a nice distro that they would enjoy using.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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I'll never use a custom ROM that includes microg by default. LineageOS with no gapps of any kind is my preference. I can get apps from f-droid or even aurora store, and everything I need works. I don't want any google stuff on there, not even a slightly less sketchy version.

Sure, but, unfortunately, a lot of apps require Google Play Services to work at all, so microG is the only sane alternative. The fact /e/OS includes it pre-configured OOB is a positive for my use case.

My primary device runs GrapheneOS, but a secondary device with /e/OS is the next best thing for apps that refuse to work without Google Play Services. Or those that I just want to keep off my main device.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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after being an android user for about 13 years i switched to an iphone se this year, and i’m very satisfied. you just can’t compare apples and oranges, android is sluggish even with a high end phone

Surely you haven’t tried all Android phones out there, so why make such a generalizing comment? I’m daily driving a mediocre Pixel 4a and have no such issues. I also tried an iPhone 11 Pro alongside my Pixel for a few months. What an unwieldy brick that was and they’re only getting heavier. Notifications handling and navigating the settings suck big time, and overall it felt very restricting to use.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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This is unrelated from the rest of the project, but why do open source projects in general have such inexplicably bad marketing? To the degree where you can't believe that somebody actually thought this would work? To the degree you can't believe someone with no marketing experience could be this inept? What is /e/? How is it pronounced? What does it mean? How do I tell people about it? Does it stick out in a Google…

GIMP really bothers me. It makes it really hard to recommend.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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A solid product name is important for marketing, to be sure. However, it's also a way that native English folks prejudice against foreign products that are arguably very useful and valuable. I'm not saying you're wrong in doing what everyone does and allowing the marketing naming to sway your decision. However, I would gently suggest that you take a more critical approach and evaluate the actual product instead of le…

something named /e/ has literally no obvious means of pronunciation in any human language. This really is on a different level of stupid for a name. You mention Kubernetes. I raise you Microsoft Kaizala. That is such a stupid name in English even though i recognise and know the language it is from - Marathi. Naming is a delicate game and there are numerous examples of brand names that transcend language - Ikea, Nissa…

I don't immediately understand why Kaizala is a stupid name, in or out of English.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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In my humble opinion, relying on custom ROMs running mandatory non-free drivers is a road to nowhere, long term , due to their unavoidable planned obsolescence. And it always has been. Supporting GNU/Linux phones is the way to improve future privacy and security (despite they may not be as secure as some Android custom ROMs are yet).

Unfortunately for that idea, I would like my phone to actually just function normally, and have support for programs that Android uses. You are making perfect the enemy of good here.

If you're using "function normally" as a euphemism for "be android," then you're misusing "perfect as the enemy of good," because if you wouldn't be satisfied with a non-Android phone, you certainly don't consider it perfect.

Re: Review of /e/ – Android-based alternative for mobile phones

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I think it’s pretty clear now. The answer is that some people like the person you replied to think it doesn’t matter. The truth is it actually matters a lot.

What does it matter for, exactly? It matters if you equate success with total domination, or think that something is only worth doing if it can create a huge gathering of people blindly supporting it. What if we simply don't care about that? Here we have a system that works well, that can do all the things that I need and that respects my freedoms. I've mentioned it to other people already, all of them simply said "o…

From /e/'s website:

> Our mission: make technology that respects user privacy accessible to everyone.

https://e.foundation/about-e/

I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest that /e/ should rebrand itself, if the new name makes /e/ more accessible to potential users who are searching for it. Good marketing doesn't necessarily mean "total domination", but it can help /e/ fulfill its mission by extending its reach.

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