Designate the cartels as terrorists and cut off their profits by securing the border.
That will make it easy for immigrants to seek asylum. That's why it aint happening.
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OK, but I’d rather have that herd or mimetic choice any day than having violent thugs kidnap me and force me to work for them
The empirical question is what are the chances you (or a loved one) gets hooked on openly available drugs, vs violent thugs kidnapping you (or a loved one). If the empirical chance of 1st is 10x-100x higher than the 2nd, then perhaps we should focus our social efforts on limiting drug availability. Edit. The world is imperfect, and it will always be imperfect. There is no solution, and especially no government policy…
> then perhaps we should focus our social efforts on limiting drug availability.
I’d rather limit the existence of roving bands of murderous thugs funded by their monopoly on illegal drugs
Again, not a reality in the US fortunately - but even with the century old drug war the drugs keep coming in. Readily available to our kids at school. So, we’ve tried that
But the devastating consequences of cartel proliferation get externalized to LatAm
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The empirical question is what are the chances you (or a loved one) gets hooked on openly available drugs, vs violent thugs kidnapping you (or a loved one). If the empirical chance of 1st is 10x-100x higher than the 2nd, then perhaps we should focus our social efforts on limiting drug availability. Edit. The world is imperfect, and it will always be imperfect. There is no solution, and especially no government policy…
> then perhaps we should focus our social efforts on limiting drug availability. I’d rather limit the existence of roving bands of murderous thugs funded by their monopoly on illegal drugs Again, not a reality in the US fortunately - but even with the century old drug war the drugs keep coming in. Readily available to our kids at school. So, we’ve tried that But the devastating consequences of cartel proliferation ge…
East Asia defeated Opium.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
> then perhaps we should focus our social efforts on limiting drug availability. I’d rather limit the existence of roving bands of murderous thugs funded by their monopoly on illegal drugs Again, not a reality in the US fortunately - but even with the century old drug war the drugs keep coming in. Readily available to our kids at school. So, we’ve tried that But the devastating consequences of cartel proliferation ge…
East Asia defeated Opium.
Then it manufactured fentanyl precursors for the cartels to distribute to the West.
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Not gonna happen during AMLO's presidency. He has been recorded eating tacos with the mother of "El Chapo" and her operators, he negotiated the extradition of Secretary of Defense Salvador Cienfuegos when he was arrested in USA, and promptly exonerated him, and has publicly declared that cartel members are human beings and deserve respect. "Hugs, not bullets" is still his "strategy". His almost two decades of preside…
The US could close it's own border if it wanted to. The US designating them as terrorists would allow the US to go in and remove the threats just like any other cell. Cooperation of the Mexican government is ideal and could be done through economic leverage like the last admin did with the USMCA to get the Stay in Mexico policy and Mexican troops on the border.
Besides closing the borders and economic sanctions (to your largest trade partner, mind you), you really don't want to go the armed way because terrorism.
It's one thing to f-up small countries in the other side of the world, but doing that to a neighbor almost half your size, with a huge shared border, impossible to land lock, and with millions of sympathizers residing in your own territory... you don't want a giant Afghanistan/Cuba as your roommate.
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The US could close it's own border if it wanted to. The US designating them as terrorists would allow the US to go in and remove the threats just like any other cell. Cooperation of the Mexican government is ideal and could be done through economic leverage like the last admin did with the USMCA to get the Stay in Mexico policy and Mexican troops on the border.
Besides closing the borders and economic sanctions (to your largest trade partner, mind you), you really don't want to go the armed way because terrorism. It's one thing to f-up small countries in the other side of the world, but doing that to a neighbor almost half your size, with a huge shared border, impossible to land lock, and with millions of sympathizers residing in your own territory... you don't want a giant…
I'm not saying to lie about WMDs and invade a country on a false premise like Iraq, I'm saying to pick up specific people at a high level in the cartels.
So if you're against the US picking these cartel members up the armed way, what method would be more effective or is the current status quo okay?
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not gonna happen during AMLO's presidency. He has been recorded eating tacos with the mother of "El Chapo" and her operators, he negotiated the extradition of Secretary of Defense Salvador Cienfuegos when he was arrested in USA, and promptly exonerated him, and has publicly declared that cartel members are human beings and deserve respect. "Hugs, not bullets" is still his "strategy". His almost two decades of preside…
The US could close it's own border if it wanted to. The US designating them as terrorists would allow the US to go in and remove the threats just like any other cell. Cooperation of the Mexican government is ideal and could be done through economic leverage like the last admin did with the USMCA to get the Stay in Mexico policy and Mexican troops on the border.
The US tries that all Latin America will respond. What a disgusting take you have made. Why are you in so much need of keeping the US as the imperalist machinery that is today? you neoconservative, bloodthirsty fucking loser.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US could close it's own border if it wanted to. The US designating them as terrorists would allow the US to go in and remove the threats just like any other cell. Cooperation of the Mexican government is ideal and could be done through economic leverage like the last admin did with the USMCA to get the Stay in Mexico policy and Mexican troops on the border.
The US tries that all Latin America will respond. What a disgusting take you have made. Why are you in so much need of keeping the US as the imperalist machinery that is today? you neoconservative, bloodthirsty fucking loser.
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US could close it's own border if it wanted to. The US designating them as terrorists would allow the US to go in and remove the threats just like any other cell. Cooperation of the Mexican government is ideal and could be done through economic leverage like the last admin did with the USMCA to get the Stay in Mexico policy and Mexican troops on the border.
The US tries that all Latin America will respond. What a disgusting take you have made. Why are you in so much need of keeping the US as the imperalist machinery that is today? you neoconservative, bloodthirsty fucking loser.
You lashed out at me because you are ignorant of the issue, it's okay I forgive you.
Please stick to the discussion next time though, instead of attacking the person, it shows weak emotional control, it's rude, and it's immature.
Plus ya'know, it violates this site's guidelines.