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2012 Will Be The Year NFC Breaks Big--Just Not In The U.S.

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Re: 2012 Will Be The Year NFC Breaks Big--Just Not In The U.S.

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Post by oconnore »

icebraining wrote: post #10

What's exactly the difference between NFC and RFID? The NFC Forum FAQ isn't very clear. Here in Portugal (and AFAIK in multiple European countries) we use contactless cards for public transportation, but that's about it; payments are still done with debit cards or cash.

Basically the 'card' is in your phone, which has a battery and a CPU, so it can secure the communication of your identity which is tied to your bank information.

The radio frequency is identical.

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Post by hboon »

sgrove wrote: post #2

I was aghast when I read that the Square COO didn't see much value in NFC ( http://gigaom.com/2011/09/26/square-mobilize-2011/ ). After spending a lot of time in Seoul where it's possible to pay for a ton of stuff via T-money card (a clipper-card-like NFC card for the public transit system), I hate pulling out my card to swipe or counting cash. NFC can phenomenally improve the experience of nearly everything we do ri…

Have you seen https://squareup.com/cardcase? It looks like it leapfrogs NFC.

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Post by jhancock »

The China gov is working with banks and its social services orgs to integrate all accounts on a "smart card" that is an NFC connected to your phone SIM. This works as both a stored value card for things like subway entrance as well as purchases made for health services by deducting from your health care account, etc.. The roll out is happening now. I'm not sure when all 260 million cards are scheduled to be out, but a 15 million card rollout is happening in the next few months.

I am working with one of the companies supplying the cards. They and their banking partners are highly interested in value added services (better payment systems, etc) to latch on to this train thats about to leave the station. Feel free to contact me if you have any ideas ;)

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Post by rodh257 »

thesash wrote: post #6

...Unless the next iPhone supports NFC

this is what will actually make it take off I believe. While a subset of Android devices support it, the marketing push it will receive when Apple bring it to their devices is what will drive adoption. All the news articles and other coverage that come when a new iPhone is announced will talk about how the new iphone is making the wallet obsolete etc, and people will get their first introduction to the technology.

I was disappointed the 4S didn't support it, as it would have been a good feature that only the 4S would have.

Re: 2012 Will Be The Year NFC Breaks Big--Just Not In The U.S.

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Post by icebraining »

oconnore wrote: post #11
icebraining wrote: post #10

What's exactly the difference between NFC and RFID? The NFC Forum FAQ isn't very clear. Here in Portugal (and AFAIK in multiple European countries) we use contactless cards for public transportation, but that's about it; payments are still done with debit cards or cash.

Basically the 'card' is in your phone, which has a battery and a CPU, so it can secure the communication of your identity which is tied to your bank information. The radio frequency is identical.

Yeah, but in the article they talk about the Octopus, which is a real card instead of a phone, as an NFC device.

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Post by rvenugopal »

sgrove wrote: post #2

I was aghast when I read that the Square COO didn't see much value in NFC ( http://gigaom.com/2011/09/26/square-mobilize-2011/ ). After spending a lot of time in Seoul where it's possible to pay for a ton of stuff via T-money card (a clipper-card-like NFC card for the public transit system), I hate pulling out my card to swipe or counting cash. NFC can phenomenally improve the experience of nearly everything we do ri…

What is so phenomenal about what Tagstand is doing? It appears to be just client side NFC with a library like zxing

http://zxing.appspot.com/generator/

What am I missing?

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