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U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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The issue has to do with the harvest coming up. The next harvest will come from fields with less fertilizer and higher fuel prices. We can expect corn prices in the fall jumping significantly. Next year will even be worse, we are using a fuel reserves now and fertilizer will still be an issue (unless peace is made with Russia). I’m expecting a significant increase in the next 2-3 months then again in 15-16 months.

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He's probably not a Russian troll (see for yourself). I think your comment would've stood by itself without dressing him down. Something to consider.

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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Good news I guess. But my electricity price literally doubled. My house insurance is up 30%. My gas bill is up by a lot. Have you seen the price of oreos? The $5 box at Taco Bell is my splurge and I'm trying to cut back on everything I can.

The inflation on food due to high fuel and fertilizer prices won’t really kick in until October -> February during harvest. Next year food will be far higher, largely due to - people skipping fertilizer a second year in a row - the feed price increases from year prior will impact next years meat - much of the cow herds have been reduced due to hay prices skyrocketing (but beef rates staying far lower, due to sell off…

In USA ground beef subsidies will increase before it reaches $12/lb for basic 80/20.

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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Great. All I know is I'm trading a lot more time for money this year. Way less takeout, avoiding toll roads unless it saves at least 30 minutes, fewer streaming services (will renew on a show-by-show basis), and food is getting so crazy I might start going to multiple stores to try and save money instead of my one consolidated trip to Wegmans. I'm also stuffing my freezer with meat and have a year's supply of non-per…

> fewer streaming services

Pessimist's take: When thinking about what we trade our time for, TV shows (and films, to some degree) have always been to me an endless source of a time sink for relatively little return. Games, slightly better, more social in some ways, certainly more mentally engaging, but also parasitic of time. To concurrently pay for multiple streaming services is unfathomable to me, moreso right now where, as you point out, your expenses have ballooned and your salary can't keep up. You aren't the only one, and yet it's highly likely (anecdotal experience here) that your friends know more about the last season of a show than they know about how to prep for the looming days, as you are prepping. One would think there's better ways to have downtime than to tune out in front of a box, but these habits are difficult to break.

(Cue the "They'll tell you" jokes.)

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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No freaking way! My rent just went up 15% (and last year too, which forced me to move out and look for a cheaper apartment), all groceries are up 30% across the board compared to last year, I know because mobile apps show my previous receipts. These are the times I feel dumb for not being a homeowner (despite technically being able to afford it, just didn't want to get locked down in an area for 8+ years to make the…

Your mortgage repayments won't go up too?

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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Great. All I know is I'm trading a lot more time for money this year. Way less takeout, avoiding toll roads unless it saves at least 30 minutes, fewer streaming services (will renew on a show-by-show basis), and food is getting so crazy I might start going to multiple stores to try and save money instead of my one consolidated trip to Wegmans. I'm also stuffing my freezer with meat and have a year's supply of non-per…

I'm doing the same (mostly just to buy a house) and I've been using YNAB to budget money: https://www.youneedabudget.com/ It's really good, knowing where you're money is going ahead of time removes so much guilt and anxiety.

Oh yeah, I use Mint for the same. It's really fun watching my cost-cutting measures getting eaten alive by inflation in real-time :) I also find myself slowly sliding down Maslow's hierarchy. I used to be focused on achieving my dream job, now I'm strongly considering work I don't like because it pays more (being the sole income for my family is a major factor there as well). "Good enough pay for awesome work" is not a viable objective at the moment. And I'm lucky to even have that option.

Something's got to give. Thankfully we're starting to see some actual government investment in US industry for the first time in forever, but it'll take years for any results to bring down prices.

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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the govt changed the way CPI metric was calculated in January 2022 to mask some of the inflation https://twitter.com/truflation/status/1557349186466627586 https://youtube.com/watch?v=cb7oI8Hs16g http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts

propagandist gonna propagandize, i guess.

here’s a biased media outlet that may meet your standards

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/24/technology/inflation-meas...

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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The two biggest direct components to inflation are energy and housing. We have a slightly distorted picture here because the prices for both of these were in a slump during the pandemic. Moratoriums, less travel, less commuting, that sort of thing. So part of this is a reversion to mean.

But on top of that we've had a genuine demand shock as everyone has decided this year to travel. This might've been fine had the companies taken the Covid relief funds and not laid off staff like they were supposed to but they didn't. And they refuse to now pay market rates.

Reminder: there is no such thing as a labor shortage. There are only under-market wages.

But what we've had is this spike in inflation and the thing about inflation is that inflation tends to begat inflation. By this I mean that companies tend to start charging more anticipating further inflation. What does this do? It drives up inflation.

Profits aren't hurting because of inflation. The likes of Exxon and Chevron are making money hand over fist. What does the government do? Raises interest rates to tackle inflation while suspending gasoline taxes.

You can also tackle demand with taxation like a windfall tax. While inflation is above, say, 4%, you could simply charge an additional 30% corporate income tax.

Reminder #2: corporate taxes are only paid on profits.

You could then use this money to help those most hurt by inflation.

As for inflation dropping, that's not surprising at all. The writing was on the wall months ago as gasoline inventories started to rise as the demand-supply mismatch started to correct itself. Next year you'll probably be paying $2.50/gallon for gas.

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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There's a big divide between politics rhetoric from political parties, and what's actually going on economically on the ground. Not only is Texas installing massive amounts of solar, wind, and battery storage, it's also mostly going into rural areas that are more politically conservative.

I wonder if they get the same conservative "No Industrial Solar" propaganda that pervades rural Iowa. A little bit of searching seems to indicate rural opposition to renewables to be fairly common.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertbryce/2022/01/27/backlash...

Republican approval of renewable energy is also dropping year over year and is down 15% from 5 years ago.

https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/06/08/most-americ...

It seems there is a pretty clear divide in partisan and urban / rural support.

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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Let's say that CPI drops even quicker than it went up due to a combo of rate hikes working, demand destruction, and supply chains clearing up. What would the Fed do in that case?

Potentially end up with significant asset deflation. This is actually a big concern of mine. We were in a definite asset bubble to begin with, so some correction was expected. But I'm concerned the fed's levers against inflation are slow ones and that we could see a real deflationary economy coming up here. The economy has been fast to fall and slow to recover, so the fed is, IMO, in danger of overshooting their soft…

Do assets here include property ?

Re: U.S. annual inflation rate drops to 8.5%

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So the year over year CPI increase each month this year (starting from January) was 7.5%, 7.9%, 8.5%, 8.3%, 8.6%, 9.1%, 8.5%. So this value has been jumping around a bit as it has been going up. This drop is being taken as good news -- but I worry whether this is really a meaningful drop or whether we are just over interpreting what could be a fundamentally noisy metric?

I don't think anyone serious is taking this as anything more than mildly encouraging.

Since the baseline fear level was "inflation will keep going up and the Fed will keep raising rates, sending us deeper into a recession in the process", this seems extremely encouraging. If inflation has peaked and is starting to fall, we will get out of this much less painfully than prior recessions.
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