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Of course fully encrypted
As of 2021-08 that doesn't appear to be the case > It however turned out that although the content of the message is encrypted, there is still a lot of user identifiable data that is not encrypted and can be seen by potential attackers.[0] [0] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266628172...
This is a US thing, right? Haven't received an SMS from a real person (in other words, all SMSes I get are 2FA etc) for, at least 5 years, maybe 10. Even people who use iPhones don't send SMSes, MMSes or anything as obsolete (including RCS). Everyone just seems to use WhatsApp and Telegram (or if they don't know any better, Viber). Locale: Central Europe. So, why would anyone stick to the obsolete stuff? Are there re…
I think a major factor is that Apple/iOS has a much lower market share vs. Android here, so iMessage was never a viable option unless you wanted to reach only 20% of your contacts.
Two systems are suboptimal for developers. It would be great if Apple and Google could get their heads together and find a way to interoperate. I don't mind the bubble colour... I'm OK with an Apple colour, Google colour, and an interoperable colour. It would be useful to signal what features might be available with each technology. What I would really like is for the interoperable solution to have a common API so I…
No thanks, we don't want your spam.
I can understand Google's frustration but they have no one to blame but themselves. Everyone is familiar with their graveyard of failed messaging applications (along with their graveyard of products generally). When I had an android phone, I tried RCS with someone else on Android. It never worked. I'm sure it's improved, but as the common theme of this story goes, Google blew their chance. I also don't trust google t…
> I don't want to use yet another messaging service that they've built. You literally wouldn't be. You would keep using iMessage. All that would be different is that you could now send images and videos to Android users. Right now you have to switch to another app to do that. This is not a '"standard" they've created', this is a GSM Association standard, and it would be Apple, not Google, implementing it.
I know because I've got the bill for it.
But to go back to the original point, I don't want google near my chat history. I don't really like Apple having it either.
Most businesses, consumers, and developers universally continue to ignore the primary reason that iMessage is a closed platform, rather than an app on every platform as iTunes is: Apple is using device serial numbers for anti-spam, supported by a fully-authenticated hardware and software stack that does not allow user modification. This permits Apple to simply “console ban” any Apple device that spams on iMessage. Th…
This is a US thing, right? Haven't received an SMS from a real person (in other words, all SMSes I get are 2FA etc) for, at least 5 years, maybe 10. Even people who use iPhones don't send SMSes, MMSes or anything as obsolete (including RCS). Everyone just seems to use WhatsApp and Telegram (or if they don't know any better, Viber). Locale: Central Europe. So, why would anyone stick to the obsolete stuff? Are there re…
The US market standardized on mobile plans with unlimited texting a long, long time ago, so I think this caused people to mostly stick to SMS/MMS for communication since it was the path of least resistance. I don't know what the situation in Europe is like now, but in the past I remember it being difficult to find plans without very small SMS caps when traveling. That could be why Europeans naturally gravitated towar…
given that undercurrent of expense, I'm still not sure why the US hasn't moved to whatsapp/signal/other. The only thing I can think of is that mobile data is even more expensive.
Most businesses, consumers, and developers universally continue to ignore the primary reason that iMessage is a closed platform, rather than an app on every platform as iTunes is: Apple is using device serial numbers for anti-spam, supported by a fully-authenticated hardware and software stack that does not allow user modification. This permits Apple to simply “console ban” any Apple device that spams on iMessage. Th…
Have you used WhatsApp or Telegram? Neither need hardware attestation. No spam, in the decade I’ve used them. I have an iPhone and a Pixel, neither have spam.
Unless the gov allows free-for-all SMS, which is not the case in the continents I’ve lived in. Sounds like a uniquely US problem, which iMessage can’t stop? You still get them, and Apple just hides them in a folder.
What are you on about really?
I can understand Google's frustration but they have no one to blame but themselves. Everyone is familiar with their graveyard of failed messaging applications (along with their graveyard of products generally). When I had an android phone, I tried RCS with someone else on Android. It never worked. I'm sure it's improved, but as the common theme of this story goes, Google blew their chance. I also don't trust google t…
And just to reinforce this, a decade ago Google supported a cross platform messaging standard: XMPP. And then they stopped it https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/google-move....
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Telstra kicked off RCS in Australia, but only on their network, then Google did one for everyone else, but it doesn't work with Telstra AFACT. Vodafone has this business RCS page: https://www.vodafone.com/business/carrier-services/messaging... and they "launched" in 2018, but from what I can tell still no-one is using it. There's a lot of confusion around it.
> from what I can tell still no-one is using it. > There's a lot of confusion around it. The story of every feature introduced by telcos in the last 100 years that goes beyond voice calls or text messages.