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“It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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I believe that is SMS spam originating from outside of iMessage

With blue bubbles?

Remember, the color of the bubbles only changes for messages YOU send, not messages you receive. Received messages are always black on grey.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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I have dozens of group chats with iPhone, Android, and even PC users. We never encounter any of the limitations of SMS, for the same reason we can drive across the country and don’t have to constantly scan for new radio channels. It’s just not a technology that we use. SMS is the old, WhatsApp/Telegram/Messenger/Signal/Discord/etc is the new.

So I have to replace the native messaging app that's decentralized, well proven, reliable, and pre-installed on every phone that can communicate with anyone in the world for 5 different centralized apps from the app store that may or may not exist next year and also try to move my entire network over? No thanks, I'll stick to SMS.

SMS that is not usable from all my other non-phone computers!

For this reason alone, I greatly prefer iMessage/discord/slack/whateverIsNext so I can use it on my phone and my computers.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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post #102

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Is iMessage a "Number-independent interpersonal communication services (e.g., messengers)"? It's a messenger but it's based on phone numbers AFAIK--unlike something like WhatsApp.

You can sign up and use an email for iMessage through wifi

Ah. I've only used it as a default SMS alternative on Apple devices including iPhone.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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> Texts from iPhones can’t always be sent to Android over Wi-Fi, leaving your messages unsent and convos hanging if you don’t have cell service.

Yes they can? I have no cellular service at home but I have wifi, and my iPhone connects to "T-Mobile Wi-Fi" via my home internet.

SMS messages are sent and received just fine.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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post #139

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No but not updating the default for 10 years in a way that mostly affects only Android users seems like borderline malfeasance to me.

It's not a "default", it's an indicator of how the message was sent.

So every sent message looks white on bright green or just the ones sent over SMS/MMS (I.e. to Android users)?

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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post #115

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What? I don't even notice the difference in color except that I know not to use the tapback stuff when I'm texting an Android user. Does the green on white actually bother anyone? This seems like grasping at straws to me.

https://color.a11y.com/ContrastPair/?bgcolor=3cd882&fgcolor=... The colours do not pass the A11Y standards, which means people with poor eyesight can't read the messages properly. This did made me curious to see if the blue background passes - and it doesn't either. https://color.a11y.com/ContrastPair/?bgcolor=047aff&fgcolor=... At least the blue background passes WCAG AA with larger sized text, while the green doesn…

Wrong color, iMessage uses #64C567 for the green background, which has a higher contrast than the pair you supplied (1.85 versus 2.15)

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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post #139

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It's not a "default", it's an indicator of how the message was sent.

So every sent message looks white on bright green or just the ones sent over SMS/MMS (I.e. to Android users)?

Messages sent via SMS/MMS are green, messages sent via iMessage are blue.

If you send a message via SMS/MMS to an iPhone user, it's green.

There is no detection if the user on the other end is an Android user.

Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”

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post #129

> iPhones make texts with Android phones difficult to read, by using white text on a bright green background. Wow. I can't really come up with anything creative to blame Google for this one. Whatever you want to say about Google's messaging mess and RCS - Apple seems to go out of their way to make it inconvenient to text with Android users. Also it doesn't sound like Google's asking Apple to give up iMessage - just t…

The green used on the website is significantly brighter than on an iPhone. In fact, on the iPhone, I would say the green gives better contrast than the white text on a blue background. For direct messages, the colored bubbles are only used on messages you send. Messages received are always white text on black background (dark mode) or black text on grey background (light mode). edit: my bad. "increase contrast" optio…

The green (and also the blue, but less so) used by iMessage doesn't even meet the minimum contrast set by apple accesibility guidelines [1]

[1] https://medium.com/@krvoller/how-iphone-violates-apples-acce...

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