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Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by ARandomerDude »

pembrook wrote: post #26

Is there a static site generator out there that doesn't require a ridiculous build process every time I do an update? Inevitably, when a new "hot" SSG comes on the scene, I try it, and then go back to compare it to the old "hot" SSG from 2 years ago. Yet, I can never get the old test site I set up running again without massive annoyances. This has happened multiple times. As far as I'm concerned, there's zero reason…

I've been on the same Middleman template and pinned gemfile for 6 years now, with multiple production sites.

If you don't want the trouble, don't chase the new hotness. Use what works until there's a compelling reason to switch.

Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by pbowyer »

eins1234 wrote: post #17
foofoobar wrote: post #9

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Netlify recently changed their pricing structure, so if you are using Netlify CMS (or just Netlify Identity) with a private repo, every contributor to the repository (committer) will be charged as full pro seat. This can get really expensive if you have a few users working with the CMS (and thus committing content to the repository). We will move a few pages from Netlify now because of this change.

Also, found out the hard way that "Enterprise" pricing (i.e. call us and we'll charge you an opaque amount based on whatever we think you can afford pricing) starts at 7 users. Vercel is not much better at 10 users, and they hide it deep within their pricing table behind a tooltip so you're not likely to realize this until it's too late. Cloudflare Pages doesn't charge per user but limits concurrent builds which can…

> I honestly can't find a good option in this space anymore... What happened?

They took lots of VC money, got crazy valuations and picked up a few enterprise customers as the JamStack trend grew - and now have to try to generate a return.

Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by procombo »

weego wrote: post #65
root_axis wrote: post #61

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> Use any SSG not written in javascript and you'll be fine. Commonly stated but not actually true. For example: https://github.com/getzola/zola/blob/master/Cargo.lock https://github.com/gohugoio/hugo (scroll to the bottom of the README)

To be fair in every day use Hugo is a single very portable binary

This. Makes everything so smooth. Serverless cloud providers love it too. (Cloudflare Pages, etc.)

Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by unicornporn »

pembrook wrote: post #26

Is there a static site generator out there that doesn't require a ridiculous build process every time I do an update? Inevitably, when a new "hot" SSG comes on the scene, I try it, and then go back to compare it to the old "hot" SSG from 2 years ago. Yet, I can never get the old test site I set up running again without massive annoyances. This has happened multiple times. As far as I'm concerned, there's zero reason…

> Yet, I can never get the old test site I set up running again without massive annoyances.

Use Zola or Hugo. They have zero dependencies.

Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by infogulch »

francislavoie wrote: post #57
rsolva wrote: post #53

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> Is there a static site generator out there that doesn't require a ridiculous build process every time I do an update? I am experimenting with Caddy's template functionality [0] in my pursuit of making dependency-free and buildless websites. Caddy's templates are inspired by the Server Side Include (SSI) functionality in Apache and Nginx, except it uses Golang's syntax. I have made several websites in Hugo and find…

To add onto this, we recently added plugin support for templates, so you can write your own template functions if you'd like! https://github.com/caddyserver/caddy/pull/4757

Have you considered adding WASM / WAGI support?

Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by powersnail »

skrtskrt wrote: post #84
powersnail wrote: post #75

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Half way through customizing a Hugo theme, I suddenly realized that I don't need a theme at all. Hugo can be used themelessly, where you just write templates specifically for your site. Everything was so much easier from there.

wait do you have a repo example of this or some sort of link? My theme is so simple I think redoing it as themeless may be better

Replace the themes directory with the "layouts" directory which contains all the templates. I do my blog this way. https://github.com/PowerSnail/PowerSnail.github.io

Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by schemescape »

orthecreedence wrote: post #85
pembrook wrote: post #26

Is there a static site generator out there that doesn't require a ridiculous build process every time I do an update? Inevitably, when a new "hot" SSG comes on the scene, I try it, and then go back to compare it to the old "hot" SSG from 2 years ago. Yet, I can never get the old test site I set up running again without massive annoyances. This has happened multiple times. As far as I'm concerned, there's zero reason…

Maybe it's too obscure, but I really like Metalsmith. Once it "clicks" it becomes ridiculously easy to make plugins and to operate, and it generally doesn't go out of date. That said, it may require a bit of javascript knowledge to get a more customized build running. It does have YAML configuration and a set of useful plugins you can use without touching code, from what I know.

I liked Metalsmith because it was so simple that you could understand every single thing it did and why. Unfortunately, the dependency tree gets ridiculous quickly, especially since many of the plugins depend on different versions or implementations of libraries (e.g. path matching libraries). My site ended up with 200+ transitive dependencies.

Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by brabel »

itcrowd wrote: post #80
ksbrooksjr wrote: post #62

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As long as you have npm installed it'll work. Npm create is an alias for the npm init command [1], which will look for a package with the prefix 'create-', install it, and run its bin file. It looks like this is the file that ends up being run: https://github.com/withastro/astro/blob/main/packages/create... . [1] https://docs.npmjs.com/cli/v8/commands/npm-init

> As long as you have npm installed it'll work. Exactly proving my original point.

If you don't have npm installed, just stay as far as you can from this :D

Seriously, JS static website generators are the worst... use something written in any compiled language so you just download and run a single binary, no messing around with npm and millions of dependencies.

Take your pick here: https://jamstack.org/generators/

Re: Astro 1.0 – a web framework for building fast, content-focused websites

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Post by lloydatkinson »

scastiel wrote: post #21
azangru wrote: post #14

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What do you find missing in Eleventy?

To be honest, I miss React :)

You will definitely like Astro then! I wrote an article on using (P)react and Astro if you're interested! https://www.lloydatkinson.net/posts/2022/writing-a-fuzzy-sea...
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