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Friendly reminder that leaded gasoline is still used today in airports all over the USA. If you live near an airport you are still affected by this in 2022.

When I was shopping for garden hoses I looked for contamination possibilities and it turns out some of those green hoses have lead in them as a stiffener. That may help explain the high lead tests in some areas. Especially where paint is not a likely vector. Old car exhaust does settle into soil particles.

Garden hoses are absolutely awful for their plasticizer content (xenoestrogen) as well

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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The low effort isn't in the concern, but just in literally the amount of effort OP put into their comment. They could at least attempt to quantify the effect they believe this has on people living near airports.

I don’t know if there is any known level of safe lead exposure. In terms of direct impact, this is going to be hard to measure but the risk is nonetheless real. In fact the difficulty of measuring the consequences of mass lead exposure was one of the best arguments out forth my oil refining companies back in the day to support leader gasoline. Not sure why all the burden of proof is on anyone who wants to avoid exposure to a dangerous chemical.

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was shopping for garden hoses I looked for contamination possibilities and it turns out some of those green hoses have lead in them as a stiffener. That may help explain the high lead tests in some areas. Especially where paint is not a likely vector. Old car exhaust does settle into soil particles.

Garden hoses are absolutely awful for their plasticizer content (xenoestrogen) as well

It seems like there's no winning.

Is there any conceivable way those chemicals could make their way into food? Should people use a watering can?

Is there any avoiding contaminants in food? Do we live in a post-contaminant society? Even our compost is contaminated.

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When I read about Inuit culture of non-violence in the 20th century [1], and wheb I read about them today [2], I have this disgusted feeling that Western culture of drugs and anger is like a virus that spread into their completely non-immunized population. A bit like the diseases brought into the new world in the 19th century, but this time psychological. [1] https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674608283…

We brought alcohol, they brought tobacco. Also masculine, peyote, mushrooms, etc

Their warriors were admired by many but I don't think "masculine" was the word you were looking for here. :)

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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When I read about Inuit culture of non-violence in the 20th century [1], and wheb I read about them today [2], I have this disgusted feeling that Western culture of drugs and anger is like a virus that spread into their completely non-immunized population. A bit like the diseases brought into the new world in the 19th century, but this time psychological. [1] https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674608283…

The documentary "The Economics of Happiness" [1] deals with this subject but in the context of Ladakh. Specifically how the introduction of globalized culture introduced sentiments of poverty, unworthiness, cultural repression, and substance abuse within the Ladakh community. [1] https://www.localfutures.org/programs/the-economics-of-happi...

My dad grew up in the region around Ladakh. His village got a single paved road in 1982 and a single electric connection in 1985. Relatives would have to walk MILES in the cold and high elevation to get an elementary education, and child malnutrition and mortality was significant (my grandmother and a number of her peers had lost at least 1 child to diseases like typhus, cholera, etc). All this happened before the development that globalization brought. Globalization helped a number of people in our region gain access to a better quality of life than anything their parents or grandparents could imagine. In addition, the benefits of globalized culture and communication meant even positive aspects like women empowerment could start to gain a foothold - no longer would you have to aim only to study up to the 10th grade if you're lucky and become a housewife, now you can aim for college and become a professional. There are a number of issues in the modern world, but firangis in their ivory towers with their weird orientalized conceptions of the worlds are not in a position to talk about this subject.

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Friendly reminder that leaded gasoline is still used today in airports all over the USA. If you live near an airport you are still affected by this in 2022.

While leaded gas is technically still sold your comment is misleading to the point where it's basically just a lie. 100LL (aka avgas) has nowhere near the lead concentration that automotive fuels use, is used in much lower volume and with much less proximity to people than leaded automotive fuel. If you are concerned about lead exposure test for lead in and around where you live and what you consume. That is the prim…

https://ehp.niehs.nih.gov/doi/10.1289/ehp.1003231

"On the basis of distance to airport coefficients, children living within 500 m, 1,000 m, or 1,500 m of an airport had average blood lead levels that were 4.4, 3.8, or 2.1% higher, respectively, than other children."

On the other hand, in 1971 lead averaged 2.5 g/gal. (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6522252/ which has a nifty graph of leaded gas use and air lead concentrations with the neat note, "The increase in air lead concentration between 2000 and 2001 is likely due to changes at sites near stationary industrial sources. The decline in air lead concentrations between 2001 and 2002 is likely due to lower lead concentrations at sites in Herculaneum, Missouri.")

100LL has about 2.1 g/gal. (https://www.exxonmobil.com/en/aviation/products-and-services...)

Ah-hah: Herculaneum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herculaneum,_Missouri#Lead_pol...

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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Terrifying. What is the police department's motive for the killings? It's left out in the article.

The motive is the same general motive you see in genocide of indigenous people around the world - from what China does to Tibetans and Uyghurs, to Canada's history of rounding up kids to put them in extremely abusive schools who freely said stuff about how they beat the indian out of the child, it's all just the way people behave when they're colonizing others. The motive is only recently seeing any organized challenge to this, it's pretty wild to look at comment sections on things and seeing the amount of genocide denial out there on this particular topic. If they exhume those alleged unmarked graves with archaeologists and find actual children's remains traceable to the nearby schools, then these people saying they could be anything have a lot of words to eat.

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The low effort isn't in the concern, but just in literally the amount of effort OP put into their comment. They could at least attempt to quantify the effect they believe this has on people living near airports.

I don’t know if there is any known level of safe lead exposure. In terms of direct impact, this is going to be hard to measure but the risk is nonetheless real. In fact the difficulty of measuring the consequences of mass lead exposure was one of the best arguments out forth my oil refining companies back in the day to support leader gasoline. Not sure why all the burden of proof is on anyone who wants to avoid expos…

"From 1976-1980 to 2015-2016, the geometric mean blood lead level (BLL) of the US population aged 1 to 74 years dropped from 12.8 to 0.82 μg/dL, a decline of 93.6%. Yet, an estimated 500 000 children aged 1 to 5 years have BLLs at or above the blood lead reference value of 5 μg/dL established by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Low levels of exposure can lead to adverse health effects. There is no safe level of lead exposure, and child BLLs less than 10 μg/dL are known to adversely affect IQ and behavior. When the exposure source is known, approximately 95% of BLLs of 25 μg/dL or higher are work-related among US adults. Despite much progress in reducing exposure to lead in the United States, there are challenges to eliminating exposure." (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6522252/)

Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The low effort isn't in the concern, but just in literally the amount of effort OP put into their comment. They could at least attempt to quantify the effect they believe this has on people living near airports.

I don’t know if there is any known level of safe lead exposure. In terms of direct impact, this is going to be hard to measure but the risk is nonetheless real. In fact the difficulty of measuring the consequences of mass lead exposure was one of the best arguments out forth my oil refining companies back in the day to support leader gasoline. Not sure why all the burden of proof is on anyone who wants to avoid expos…

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Re: Saskatoon Freezing Deaths

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When I read about Inuit culture of non-violence in the 20th century [1], and wheb I read about them today [2], I have this disgusted feeling that Western culture of drugs and anger is like a virus that spread into their completely non-immunized population. A bit like the diseases brought into the new world in the 19th century, but this time psychological. [1] https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674608283…

Your thoughts are interesting, but I am having trouble seeing how this relates to the Wikipedia article. The Wikipedia article is about police murdering a number of Indigenous Canadians. I am not sure what the connection is to a "virus" of drugs and anger spreading among Inuit people.

I believe that none of the men in this Wikipedia article are Inuit. Wikipedia reports 2016 census showing the following Indigenous population of Saskatoon: 85 Inuit, 14,430 First Nations, and 12,255 Métis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon#Demographics

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