Apple, pointing to all the happy children in the iMessage pool: "nah, we good, thanks"
“It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
21–30 of 1001 posts
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#22This is pretty disingenuous I think. Other than Android who is using RCS?
Why can't I message between WhatsApp and an RCS client. Or any other chat technology, how about Google Chat to RCS, or Slack to RCS, or anything else.
Their examples for 'the modern standard adopted by most of the mobile world': Motorola, OnePlus, Google Pixel, Samsung, Snapdragon are all providers of Android phones, so clearly they would use the default Android messaging service.
I have a few folk (mostly family) who uses Apple messaging, everyone else seems to be on WhatsApp.
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#23Who uses sms anymore these days? I tried to go back to a non-smart phone, but it was impossible due to not having whatsapp. That might be a 'local' thing though, not sure. Anyway, they should just release imessage for android; that would piss off meta too, which is a win in my book ;)
> Who uses sms anymore these days?
Most people? But yeah, it's a local thing. Denmark have had free SMS for something like 20 years, at least as an optional add-on to your subscription. So there where never a reason to move to something else. If you frequently used SMS you just paid the small free for a large number of SMS message, or even unlimited. Current subscriptions pretty much all have free SMS.
When smartphones arrived, most just use the built in messing app. On the iPhone that means that you use iMessage, but it's not something you think about. If you took the average Danish iMessage user and asked them, they'd just say it's SMS.
I don't know that I would want Apple to just dominate the messaging market, but iMessage on Android would kill of many of the existing platforms pretty quickly.
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#24Maybe Google should enable push notification support again for Mail.app Gmail users too.
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#25From what I’m seeing RCS just isn’t a true solution. Apple and Google should come together to create a standard outside of the carriers.
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#26I can’t take this site seriously. It says it’s ‘not about’ the green and blue bubbles. It is , and it’s largely that Apple has a vested interest in making their ecosystem look so much better in general. If I’m texting my friends with an Android and group chat, etc; isn’t working properly - I will automatically assume something about Android is broken, because it works perfectly to my other friends who use iPhones. Ap…
> iMessage is one of Apple’s most valuable psychological tricks to keep people within the ecosystem, or convert others to join in.
Perhaps a kernel of truth there, but the real success of iMessage is how it gives you all the features of a modern instant messaging platform without any hassle. Built in to the phone, same app as SMS with automatic fallback, available on MacOS, not limited to a phone#, etc.
Yeah, I can go download one of a number of other IM apps. A small fraction of people I interact with will be reachable on any given app, but a majority are reachable with iMessage. The network effect is very real.
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#27Who uses sms anymore these days? I tried to go back to a non-smart phone, but it was impossible due to not having whatsapp. That might be a 'local' thing though, not sure. Anyway, they should just release imessage for android; that would piss off meta too, which is a win in my book ;)
Everyone in the US (if there is at least one android user in the chat)
I have dozens of group chats with iPhone, Android, and even PC users. We never encounter any of the limitations of SMS, for the same reason we can drive across the country and don’t have to constantly scan for new radio channels. It’s just not a technology that we use.
SMS is the old, WhatsApp/Telegram/Messenger/Signal/Discord/etc is the new.
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#28> android.com
I'm sure they are not biased at all
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Plenty of people in Europe with our pre-pay SIM cards, having like 5 000 free SMS per month, minimum.
I have infinite free SMS per month and I uses less than 1 a month. In Europe everyone uses WhatsApp.
> In Europe everyone uses WhatsApp.
That's a bit of an overstatement and really depend on who you ask. I'd say that no-one uses WhatsApp. I know exactly two people who uses WhatsApp, but that also not representative of their actual marketshare.
Re: “It’s time for Apple to fix texting”
#30Who uses sms anymore these days? I tried to go back to a non-smart phone, but it was impossible due to not having whatsapp. That might be a 'local' thing though, not sure. Anyway, they should just release imessage for android; that would piss off meta too, which is a win in my book ;)
I absolutely use SMS. I use Android and don't have Facebook or Whatsapp so if you want to text me you are gonna use SMS.