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Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by __alexs »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #29
Barrin92 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry to disappoint but money laundering is very much a real, federal offense. (most other jurisdictions have equivalent laws) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_Laundering_Control_Act

The point that went right over the head of you and the head of the other authoritarian that he is responding to is that there is no victim, not even a risk of a victim or any other bad "externality" (to use a word I know you people love) to money laundering just as a standalone act. The crime is defined in statute as a matter of convenience for the state because having privacy regarding where money comes from/goes ma…

The money they are laundering doesn't come from nowhere. It's the proceeds of other crimes, with real victims.

A person laundering is an accessory to other crimes.

Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by [deleted] »

meltyness wrote: post #15

This is an overreach, and it is going to backfire. The target here is a software package, essentially speech so, one step down That hill. At least congress isn't deluded, corrupt, and senile enough to try this. Edit: further, it seems they're going to have to shut down Ethereum too, because Tornado Cash's contract is a person, and subgroup of Ethereum under the definition of entity which falls under the definition of…

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Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by dismalpedigree »

Barrin92 wrote: post #25
prvit wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Money laundering” is a fake crime designed to make it easier to prosecute people who may or may not also have committed real crimes.

Sorry to disappoint but money laundering is very much a real, federal offense. (most other jurisdictions have equivalent laws) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_Laundering_Control_Act

I’m reminded of the scene in the movie Blow when he is arguing with the judge that its not a real crime.

Judge: Unfortunately for you, the line you crossed was real and the plants you brought with you were illegal, so your bail is twenty thousand dollars.

Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by hikingsimulator »

chrischattin wrote: post #17

Any constitutional law experts care to comment? If the US government put pressure on Github to remove the code and delete their accounts, it seems like a clear violation of the developer's first amendment rights – "code is speech" being precedent.

IANAL; even in the USA not all speech is protected under the law. See libel laws.

Here it is less about the code as speech, but code as an illegal business and product. It's not an either//or situation. Code is more than just one thing.

Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by mhh__ »

ngetchell wrote: post #35
SXX wrote: post #24

This is a good time time for EFF to step in. This is open huge so many terrible ways for abuse. 1. Make some random crypto project. 2. Motivate people contribute to it, see DigitalOcean hacktoberfest. 3. Replace the code with Tornado.Cash source. Everyone's account is banned by Microsoft. Also I wonder what happen if you didnt sent PR yourself, but someone crafted git commit with your email and added it to such repos…

What would be the motivation to pull off that heist?

Chaos, ransom etc.

Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by a_t48 »

ngetchell wrote: post #35
SXX wrote: post #24

This is a good time time for EFF to step in. This is open huge so many terrible ways for abuse. 1. Make some random crypto project. 2. Motivate people contribute to it, see DigitalOcean hacktoberfest. 3. Replace the code with Tornado.Cash source. Everyone's account is banned by Microsoft. Also I wonder what happen if you didnt sent PR yourself, but someone crafted git commit with your email and added it to such repos…

What would be the motivation to pull off that heist?

Good ole trolling

Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by zekica »

ngetchell wrote: post #35
SXX wrote: post #24

This is a good time time for EFF to step in. This is open huge so many terrible ways for abuse. 1. Make some random crypto project. 2. Motivate people contribute to it, see DigitalOcean hacktoberfest. 3. Replace the code with Tornado.Cash source. Everyone's account is banned by Microsoft. Also I wonder what happen if you didnt sent PR yourself, but someone crafted git commit with your email and added it to such repos…

What would be the motivation to pull off that heist?

To prove a point I assume? Nothing else comes to mind.

Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by root_axis »

chrischattin wrote: post #17

Any constitutional law experts care to comment? If the US government put pressure on Github to remove the code and delete their accounts, it seems like a clear violation of the developer's first amendment rights – "code is speech" being precedent.

Not all speech is legal. If I write a virus and unleash it on the internet it's not unconstitutional to arrest me.

Re: GitHub deleted accounts of people who contributed to Tornado Cash repos

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Post by kube-system »

cdiddy2 wrote: post #19
junon wrote: post #7

People on Twitter are either wilfully dumb or simply ignorant. GitHub had to do this. It was required of them by law. Tornado was sanctioned . > These prohibitions include the making of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services by, to, or for the benefit of any blocked person and the receipt of any contribution or provision of funds, goods, or services from any such person. This is, unambiguously, di…

The people were not sanctioned only the onchain addresses of Tornado were. Github was not providing any service to the onchain addresses.

The first two lines in the list were not ETH addresses:

> TORNADO CASH (a.k.a. TORNADO CASH CLASSIC; a.k.a. TORNADO CASH NOVA);

> Website tornado.cash;

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