I don't care how fast M1 is if it can't run my 32-bit x86 Windows programs. It may as well not exist.
What 32 bit x86 Windows programs do you still use?
How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
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Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#212I went from saying, "if only they had an AMD" to getting a different machine in ARM and now im saying "if only they had ARM". I never realized how much heat, vibration, air blowers negatively affected me before. A framework laptop with some type of ARM or ARM-like cpu could do a lot with the space savings on cooling.
> I never realized how much heat, vibration, air blowers negatively affected me before.
It's like a constant drilling sound that gets into your brain and makes thoughts flow like through the mud in the full sunlight.
For that reason, despite that I don't like Apple and I am not a fan of macOS, I decided to buy M1 MBP.
This is a lifechanging experience, that laptop. You can even put it on low power mode and won't lose much perfomance and it is absolutely silent. Even if you run a prolonged heavy task and fans kick in, you will barely hear them (ha hope it won't get worse over time and that there will be a way to disconnect them if that is going to be a problem).
Oh and no coil whine. Even if my XPS 15 miraculously don't have fans on, you can be sure their noise is inconveniently replaced by distinct coil whine that is just as annoying as fans.
I am probably going to buy another macbook, this time the Air one just for leisure and learning.
Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#213Those figures are useless without power consumption.
Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#214Earlier quoted context omitted.
unfortunately? as in no competition to drive progress?
Not too many companies have a market cap over a trillion dollars, and if you don't then you can forget about competing on the upcoming process nodes that will require enormous capital. Samsung's internal processor division seems to be sucking. Google is trying it half-heartedly like they do with nearly everything. Nvidia and AMD haven't really tried to compete for the desktop ARM market, and Intel certainly hasn't. Q…
I hope they move into workstation. Something like a quad M2 MAX would probably sell like there is no tomorrow.
Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#215Cool, now compare it to an M2
For some people comparing to Apple is useless - Macbooks could be a thousand times faster and last for a year on battery, they still would be 100% useless to me because they don't run the software I need on a daily basis.
What software do you find irreplaceable?
Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#216Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree, but than you have corporate compliance installing an insane amount of Spyware on your device so that a 2021 XPS 13 Dell with a gen 10 Intel is out of battery when only using word within the hour. Fans spinning all the time and no way of disabling this madness. Nearly the same for my Mac colleagues. They maybe get 2 hours out of their M1 MBPs unplugged.
Recently discovered that Infosec has now mandated that all laptops have sleep disabled (the reason given is to be able to do endpoint patching). ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ So I'm faced with having to log out and power off every day or suck up the cost of keeping the laptop on. /r/maliciouscompliance, here I come I suppose. Tempted to get one of these: https://us.amazon.com/Vegamax-Button-Ethernet-Internet-Netwo...
Your infosec department doesn't know how to stage patches then and should be ashamed.
Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#217Earlier quoted context omitted.
How much corporate garbage on it, though?
2 hours on a M1 is beyond corporate garbage. It's like they try to use as much power as possible, perhaps more than one process is stuck in an infinite loop.
Sounds like a shit EDR that's constantly scanning every file
Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#218The Apple M1 processor should be used as a benchmark. Not other Intel processors.
Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#219Surely the real story here is that Framework have released a CPU upgrade for a laptop?
Yep! We released an announcement around starting shipments of this two weeks ago. Our blog post this week was just a round-up of benchmarks both from reviewers and from us, to respond to common questions we got around performance improvements.
Unfortunately you don’t ship to my country!
Re: How fast is 12th Gen Intel Core?
#220Earlier quoted context omitted.
Price isn't the thing that keeps most people I know away from Macbooks (after all, it's the employers/business expense). I'm sure many people would like an M1 machine for the efficiency but the software is simply not ideal. If they invested in contributing Linux drivers they'd probably be able to takeover the market for developers. Asahi is slowly improving, but it doesn't feel ready yet to be someone's sole daily ma…
I suppose you mostly know ppl who run linux as their primary os then? Certainly in web dev all macs have been extremely popular.
As someone who uses Linux daily and generally dislikes macOS, I got all my Linux tools up and running on macOS, Docker runs well and many Linux things I run on an external cluster. So I am content.
The macOS UI is bit annoying and the fact that you have to install tiny apps like to have a separate trackpad and mouse scrolling direction is not ideal, but yeah it's all dwarfed by the fact I finally can't hear any fans and performance is just as good as plugged in. I can't remember when I last time had a laptop on a sofa without having to worry about the charger and getting laps uncomfortably hot.