The Cluetrain Manifesto (1999)
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The Cluetrain Manifesto (1999)
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Re: The Cluetrain Manifesto (1999)
#2Friends of mine were wondering about the history after that seminal text: how we got from this (opinionated, but sensible approach) to agile coaches (they apparently never had a good experience of any; I worked with one a long time ago, the guy was like a fish on a tree at that particular company).
I realized I don't know all the parts: I've met a couple of influential people in that world but there are still a lot of trends that confuse me. Is there a history of modern software practices?
Re: The Cluetrain Manifesto (1999)
#3Doc Searls fought a good fight against adtech, but he lost. 8(
He's still speaking out against the idiocy of the world. He also takes good photos.
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#4Feels like I'm missing some context here. I guess the point is to chuckle, since this was posted in 1999 before it became evident that in fact markets are dumb and gullible and if you have a popular enough website you can own entire ones and sell access to their members with unprecedented efficiency to advertisers.
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#5Feels like I'm missing some context here. I guess the point is to chuckle, since this was posted in 1999 before it became evident that in fact markets are dumb and gullible and if you have a popular enough website you can own entire ones and sell access to their members with unprecedented efficiency to advertisers.
> in fact markets are dumb and gullible and if you have a popular enough website you can own entire ones
The Cluetrain Manifesto reminds me of another text from the same era -- World of Ends https://worldofends.com/>, about how the internet is an agreement not a thing and how the intelligence is all at the ends.
Of course, that's no longer true. The internet as it was no longer exists, it's been castrated, tamed and made safe for corporations and governments working hand-in-hand to take the power, and control us.
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#6Still got my copy somewhere; will dig it out and re-read, though I suspect with some disappointment and sadness.
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#7The book that started it all for me - from my childhood love of programming a zxspectrum ,msx, and apple macintosh - to exploring and making my living on the interwebs. Time to re read.
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#8Feels like I'm missing some context here. I guess the point is to chuckle, since this was posted in 1999 before it became evident that in fact markets are dumb and gullible and if you have a popular enough website you can own entire ones and sell access to their members with unprecedented efficiency to advertisers.
> in fact markets are dumb and gullible and if you have a popular enough website you can own entire ones The Cluetrain Manifesto reminds me of another text from the same era -- World of Ends https://worldofends.com/ >, about how the internet is an agreement not a thing and how the intelligence is all at the ends. Of course, that's no longer true. The internet as it was no longer exists, it's been castrated, tamed and…
luckily web3 will save us
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#9Doc Searls and The Cluetrain Manifesto. Man, I have thought about both in quite a while.
I guess I'll have to find my dusty copy hidden in some forgotten corner.
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#10I remember this from back when the internet was shiny and full of hope. Vs the value extraction that’s happening.
Of course, I’m sure it was mostly just me being young vs the market really being that different.
I listened to this on cd and remember having the case in my car for years and years. I feel like it influenced me in how I design products and projects and stuff but don’t remember anything specific from the book.