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FBI Searches Trump’s Home in Florida

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> January 6 wasn't enough? And what exactly is his alleged crime or wrongdoing? Here’s the full transcript from his speech that day: https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-s... Here’s a sample (emphasis mine): > I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

Watch the January 6th hearings if there is any doubt in your mind. The evidence is laid out quite clearly.

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> Watch the January 6th hearings if there is any doubt in your mind. The evidence is laid out quite clearly. If you can’t even summarize a crime in one sentence then it’s anything but “quite clear”.

Say it with me: "Trump tried to stay in power via a violent coup."

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January 6 wasn't enough? Just for fun, what would convince you? "Profound wrong" is a great phrase, but what specifically?

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I'm confident the federal judge who granted the warrant wouldn't sign it unless he/she is absolutely certain there is a solid case, even more since an ex-President is targeted.

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I strongly believe there is probable cause to be found that Trump committed crimes, but I can't help but ask if these hunts against former presidents are positive for the future peace and prosperity of America.

Is this a hunt? There is already a large body of evidence that he attempted to destroy records that he was legally obligated to keep, and quite a few credible claims that he succeeded by flushing records down the toilet. To say nothing of the emoluments clause.

Trump was entrusted with the highest office of the land, and flagrantly violated the laws and his oaths. At the head of the party that consistently claims that "law and order" is a guiding principle, bringing him to justice should be a no-brainer, right?

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I strongly believe there is probable cause to be found that Trump committed crimes, but I can't help but ask if these hunts against former presidents are positive for the future peace and prosperity of America.

South Korea seems to be doing OK despite being ahead of the US in this particular domain.

Yep, South Korea sent four ex-presidents to prison (three were pardoned, one is still in prison). It's not a perfect solution (obviously we'd prefer if we had presidents who didn't commit crimes), but I think it's a net positive. Surprisingly, when you throw an ex-president in jail, the society doesn't break down. The stock market barely even notices.

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Probable cause?

Whatever evidence was presented, it’s damning, based on a the approval chain to execute such a search (DOJ + a federal judge). Most likely it was the National Archives. Federal law bars the removal of classified documents to unauthorized locations.

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I strongly believe there is probable cause to be found that Trump committed crimes, but I can't help but ask if these hunts against former presidents are positive for the future peace and prosperity of America.

I'm going to suggest that to the police next time I commit a crime.

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