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Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by the_af »

I've been using Crayon AI (similar project, free) to create images for a pet hobby project, free and for my own private enjoyment.

Think a D&D RPG: I'm writing a bestiary and book of spells, and because I don't care about an exact fit, I can prototype tons of bizarre creatures, wizardly types, weird spells, and colorful scenery. It's pretty cool, and way easier than drawing the prototypes myself.

The one thing these AIs really struggle with is faces. It's hard to get a human without a monstrous face. The best you can hope for is an abstract or blurry face.

Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by the_af »

amelius wrote: post #95
akamaka wrote: post #9

Am I one of the few people who finds these generated pictures really bad? They often have weird and unsettling details when you look closely. I mean, it’s an incredible achievement in AI that we can generate images at this level, but I don’t want them shown to me on a daily basis while I’m reading blogs.

The pictures are certainly deep down in the uncanny valley, but I think they would be great for nightmarish games. In fact, game developers (and especially game artists) might be the next profession on the line, to be automated by AI.

I don't understand your assertion. Neither game developers nor artists are in any danger of being automated by AI.

Until Copilot can make the game you want, you cannot replace developers. And until you think AI is ready to replace artists in general, you won't be able to automate game artists.

That's not to say a game with assets largely drawn by AI, and heavily assisted by Copilot, wouldn't be a cool artistic experiment!

Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by thrown_22 »

andybak wrote: post #147
thrown_22 wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI can be overblown and it can also be magical. This was true for state of the art in 2010: https://xkcd.com/1425/ today you have a free phone app that does both. Of course it also classifies a spoon as a large breasted robin which is why you need a human in the loop. It's even truer in programming.

That xkcd actually claims the opposite: "some things that many people assume to be trivial CS problems actually require advancements in AI"

That's what I said. The converse is that despite the huge advance the model is still incredibly fragile and quite useless outside the niche for which it was trained for.

Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by the_af »

ryanSrich wrote: post #121
akamaka wrote: post #9

Am I one of the few people who finds these generated pictures really bad? They often have weird and unsettling details when you look closely. I mean, it’s an incredible achievement in AI that we can generate images at this level, but I don’t want them shown to me on a daily basis while I’m reading blogs.

> Am I one of the few people who finds these generated pictures really bad? Well they're bad at not looking like AI generated art. It's impressive, but I've yet to come across an example that doesn't look like AI generated art. A few seconds of surface level inspection and you can see the weird AI psychodelic circling effect (no idea what the technical name is - eye-ball-ification?)

There's a cyberpunk art Facebook group where some people have taken to sharing AI generated cyberpunk cityscapes, and I've been hard pressed to tell it apart from human art on occasion.

To be fair, I think this is because "cyberpunk cityscape" as an artform has become so cliché and generic, it's easy for an AI to copy it!

Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by viburnum »

akamaka wrote: post #9

Am I one of the few people who finds these generated pictures really bad? They often have weird and unsettling details when you look closely. I mean, it’s an incredible achievement in AI that we can generate images at this level, but I don’t want them shown to me on a daily basis while I’m reading blogs.

Yeah, maybe it's okay for a tech company to be weirdly robotic, but I'd be happier without them random illustrations.

Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by the_af »

silvestrov wrote: post #101
xwdv wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will never come for us. You think it will, but that’s because you don’t understand software. Pick any random Jira ticket for a large software project. Could an AI understand and implement that feature into a larger project? Can it correctly deploy it without interruptions to production jobs? Will it correctly implement tests and decent code coverage? If there are regressions will it know how to go in and fix them?…

Writing software is like writing novels: putting words together to make sentences is easy. Making the story make sense is difficult. One could think that much of art is just pretty form without sense and that is why DALL-E works.

I don't think that assessment of art is accurate.

Most art is not "pretty form without sense". It actually has sense and meaning more often than not, so we can debate what a particular piece "means".

The difference with engineering is that art's meaning is way more subjective, and that if I "miss the point" or simply disagree with the consensus on its meaning, this doesn't make an airplane go down or a nuclear reactor to melt down.

Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by egypturnash »

God it’s so fucking depressing to see all you techies debating whether or not the skill I have dedicated my life to getting good enough at to earn a quiet, modest living with should be automated away or not. And insisting that surely your jobs are too special and complex for this to ever happen to you.

At least I can take solace in the fact that for now these things aren’t gonna be taking a bite out of the furry art commissions I like to take, since that’s way too associated with crazy cartoon porn for them to not censor relevant keywords.

Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by julianlam »

egypturnash wrote: post #177

God it’s so fucking depressing to see all you techies debating whether or not the skill I have dedicated my life to getting good enough at to earn a quiet, modest living with should be automated away or not. And insisting that surely your jobs are too special and complex for this to ever happen to you. At least I can take solace in the fact that for now these things aren’t gonna be taking a bite out of the furry art…

Don't worry, while the rest of the industry is busy making artsy abstract images of chimpanzees surfing on a wave of coronavirii, you can quietly work on UX design I guess.

Re: I replaced all our blog thumbnails using DALL·E 2

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Post by roughly »

egypturnash wrote: post #177

God it’s so fucking depressing to see all you techies debating whether or not the skill I have dedicated my life to getting good enough at to earn a quiet, modest living with should be automated away or not. And insisting that surely your jobs are too special and complex for this to ever happen to you. At least I can take solace in the fact that for now these things aren’t gonna be taking a bite out of the furry art…

Not to mention that the whole goddamn trick here is basically taking the output you and your peers have created, anonymizing it, throwing it in a blender, and then acting like the AI has generated something new and humans aren't needed anymore.
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