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AI generated, command whatever you want. It will generate mind-blowing images

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> The problem is that you can feel like this all day, but you won't be any more able to perform absent the aid of a digital prosthesis. All tools are prostheses. Mastery of a tool incorporates it into your proprioception. Do you think about the motions your fingers need to make, when you type? No, of course not - you think about the words you are writing, and they appear. AI tools will be the same, once we get used t…

You completely missed the point, and ended up equating creative innovation with manufacturing. Most copyists were not illuminators. Typing does not preclude other forms of writing (eg with a pencil, which I use almost as much as a keyboard), and typing is not a creative endeavor to begin with, unless you want to get into ASCII art. There's a difference between generative and the merely productive. You could spend 10…

I understood your point to be a concern that skills we value today will become marginalized or lost if the majority of people choose the new automated tools instead of doing it 'by hand'. You worry that people will just consume output, instead of engaging in creative expression. Did I misunderstand?

My point was that it does not matter whether you can "perform absent the aid of a digital prosthesis", because digital tools are not fundamentally different than any of the other kinds of tools humans have developed throughout our history. Creativity is always a function of the tools available. Creative thought is always shaped and enabled by the capabilities one can draw on. Different skills come and go as they are needed.

When the camera came along, the art of representational painting and illustration lost the importance it previously had. Why hire someone to spend hours making a picture when the camera can do it better, quicker, and cheaper? But of course painting and drawing did not go away, they just evolved into something else. Meanwhile a whole new creative form developed on top of the new technology of photography.

A different analogy: once upon a time, making music involved years of practice, learning to play an instrument, understanding how music works, memorizing compositions. Then records came along... and a few decades later, someone invented DJing. Is a DJ a musician? Not in the traditional way, they're just playing recordings of other musicians after all! But a whole new art form developed at a higher level of abstraction, looping and mixing recordings into a seamless performance.

I believe the same will happen with tools like DALL-E and midjourney. Some creative practices will diminish, because the robots will be good enough, and it won't make sense to have humans do those jobs anymore. But those skills won't disappear; they'll just become specialized, and people will find new strange creative things to do with them. Meanwhile whole new kinds of creative expression will emerge on top of the new AI tools. They won't look like the skills we value today, but people won't stop making creative use of their environments, so they will eventually become new disciplines as well-developed as anything we have today.

Re: AI generated, command whatever you want. It will generate mind-blowing images

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It basically guarantees that most people won't know about it, won't interact with it, and won't be able to view the results. That's good for now. It's early days and it's pretty busy already. I don't like Discord much but I'll admit it's a pretty good interface for something like MJ as you can see (and be inspired by) other people's prompts and discuss the process in a live way. The amount of realtime product feedbac…

> The number of HN comments complaining about how complicated Discord is (not yours so much, but the ones where people refuse to even countenance Discord at all) strikes me as odd given my assumption the typical HN user would be a high openness, hacker-ish type keen to try new things. I think I could be considered as a high openness, hacker-ish type keen to try new things, and my avoidance of discord isn’t that it’s…

> whereas I have a lot of interests and really just want the gems whenever I “sit down” to work with a particular interest.

On larger servers discord has started defaulting to a feed channel summing up all the others and displaying popular messages/subthreads with a facebook/twitter type algorithm.

Re: AI generated, command whatever you want. It will generate mind-blowing images

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To iterate fast and get something in the hands of users. I can guarantee they want their app on every platform under the sun someday, but things take time.

But I'm sure this is restricting the number of users who access it as "people who use discord" is a significantly smaller number than "people who use the web".

Discord solves a big problem for them: they are trying to give a limited number of uses to each user. They dont have to create their own proof of human infrastructure since discord already has some weak forms of that with sms verification.

Re: AI generated, command whatever you want. It will generate mind-blowing images

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Okay I got to say I have never been both superimpressed with the product and yet confused how sucky it was to get to it. heres what happened 1. I see the post on HN 2. I click it. 3. I read comments, see people discuss why its on discord, and figure worth checking it out since I have discord 4. I had to log in with discord, go to their chat, 5. read the trial support room chat(webpage only had basic $10/month and pre…

here is the imnage -> https://ibb.co/0KLRScn

Re: AI generated, command whatever you want. It will generate mind-blowing images

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Nah! https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003491515068321913/1... Prompt was omniman vs homelander vs superman

Maybe there is not enough existing Omniman/Homelander imagery to draw from.

A human artist needs only one.

Re: AI generated, command whatever you want. It will generate mind-blowing images

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Same here. I'm not a gamer and Discord isn't a thing in my world. I simply closed the tab.

I’ve been playing with tech like this in various Discord servers for over a year now and I’m still fascinated every day. Knowing how incredible it is and then hearing people say “Sure. But, Discord. Ew.” is a shaking-my-head moment. The Discord interface is far from ideal. But, it has had a very high ROI for the small, low budget team behind Midjourney.

I don't care if it's discord or slack or whatsapp or thelatesthypedapp... I even have a discord account, I just don't understand why the author is introducing extra hurdles, stick it on the open web, that's the lowest friction and least platform dependence.

Re: AI generated, command whatever you want. It will generate mind-blowing images

#87

"Sign in with Discord". No, thanks. If you tie yourself to Discord, or other social media platforms, then I'm out.

And that's ok. I had the same reaction, but after jumping in I made two realization:

- this is just like slack, and I already use and don't mind slack

- after using Dall-E's webinterface for 3+ months, I actually like the image generation interaction via chat, its history transfers seamlessly between my devices, social feedback is built right in etc.

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