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Ask HN: Longevity for your parents, what to do?

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Re: Ask HN: Longevity for your parents, what to do?

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Also, consider whether they actually want to. At some point, some people have had enough of life and don't want anymore, even if they're healthy (I'm not 40 yet and start to feel it ;))

But as mentioned before, get some kids, sure they will make YOUR life comparatively miserable, but your parents will love it ^_^

Re: Ask HN: Longevity for your parents, what to do?

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I'll mention, regarding metformin, that although it's useful for longevity (my father is on it for diabetes and seems well), it can create some significant GI issues. If your parents are not firmly convinced of the benefits of what you're suggesting, you may encounter resistance because of those issues.

Re: Ask HN: Longevity for your parents, what to do?

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I have a sincere question for people that are into longevity: Why?

Staving off mental decline makes perfect sense, that’s not what I’m referring to.

There are some people that seem excited to simply push the envelope as to how long they can live for through diet and pharmaceuticals, and I personally don’t really understand that.

What is the particular appeal of e.g. living to be 130 years old?

Re: Ask HN: Longevity for your parents, what to do?

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I was always struck when I lived in China how young, happy and active the elderly all seemed, even though they were much the same age as elderly folk where I grew up (the UK). I had a feeling it must be at least partly due to their increased role in child rearing among most families. This is partly just traditional Chinese culture but probably also comes in part due to the awful working hours most Chinese people tend…

> China how young, happy and active the elderly all seemed probably because they haven't been exposed to a lifetime of processed foods like here in the west.

Definitely depends where in China for this to be true. Shanghai or Beijing? Won't be much, if any, better than in the US. Countryside? Likely will be much better, but food is often scarce in general in these areas.

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I have a sincere question for people that are into longevity: Why? Staving off mental decline makes perfect sense, that’s not what I’m referring to. There are some people that seem excited to simply push the envelope as to how long they can live for through diet and pharmaceuticals, and I personally don’t really understand that. What is the particular appeal of e.g. living to be 130 years old?

> What is the particular appeal of e.g. living to be 130 years old?

Assuming you can stay mentally and physically healthy during that time, what is the downside? Why would someone _not_ want to live as long as they can?

There is so much that has happened in the last 130 years, it'd be great to see what happens in the next 130 years.

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Metformin did pan out, but the research seems to indicate One Meal A Day would have to be employed with it, as Metformin seems to interfere with autophagy. Lack of autophagy seems to be the biggest cause of the effects of old age, as the Western Diet pounds 3 meals a day, which means our insulin levels never drop to the autophagy activation level. If you want that "one weird trick that doctors hate", OMAD alone is al…

This is interesting. I've been eating only once per day ever since I started feeding myself, but not because of a conscious plan. I just can't handle any more, unless I also engage in very physical activity. To answer the other comment, the size of that one meal is the same as anyone else's ordinary dinner, not larger. And I do indeed seem to be enjoying better overall health than a lot of people my age or even 10 ye…

Autophagy is the process by which the cells clean up and recycle. It is promoted by intermittent fasting. Stay healthy my friend!

Re: Ask HN: Longevity for your parents, what to do?

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I have a sincere question for people that are into longevity: Why? Staving off mental decline makes perfect sense, that’s not what I’m referring to. There are some people that seem excited to simply push the envelope as to how long they can live for through diet and pharmaceuticals, and I personally don’t really understand that. What is the particular appeal of e.g. living to be 130 years old?

> What is the particular appeal of e.g. living to be 130 years old? Assuming you can stay mentally and physically healthy during that time, what is the downside? Why would someone _not_ want to live as long as they can? There is so much that has happened in the last 130 years, it'd be great to see what happens in the next 130 years.

I think that having a normal human lifespan encourages a person to accomplish and experience as much as they can within that timeframe. The limited nature of time is a big part of what makes it valuable, so it motivates people to find meaning.

I suppose if I looked at say, 85 or 90 years and thought “That’s not enough time for me to figure out what’s meaningful to me and realize it. I’ll need at least another five decades.” that would seem kind of morose to me.

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Longevity is wrong for the economy and for politics. Ask Prince Charles if you don't trust me. Just let them go, we are all going the same way anyway. Very little of value comes out of one's mind after a certain age.

This is a sad comment.

Sad but true.

Re: Ask HN: Longevity for your parents, what to do?

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> What is the particular appeal of e.g. living to be 130 years old? Assuming you can stay mentally and physically healthy during that time, what is the downside? Why would someone _not_ want to live as long as they can? There is so much that has happened in the last 130 years, it'd be great to see what happens in the next 130 years.

I think that having a normal human lifespan encourages a person to accomplish and experience as much as they can within that timeframe. The limited nature of time is a big part of what makes it valuable, so it motivates people to find meaning. I suppose if I looked at say, 85 or 90 years and thought “That’s not enough time for me to figure out what’s meaningful to me and realize it. I’ll need at least another five de…

That's one sort of life philosophy. There are others.

If I had to point out exactly where I disagree with this, I'd say I don't view "doing a meaningful thing" as a thing you do once and then you're done with life. If I can do meaningful things for a few extra decades, that's a good thing.

Re: Ask HN: Longevity for your parents, what to do?

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that having a normal human lifespan encourages a person to accomplish and experience as much as they can within that timeframe. The limited nature of time is a big part of what makes it valuable, so it motivates people to find meaning. I suppose if I looked at say, 85 or 90 years and thought “That’s not enough time for me to figure out what’s meaningful to me and realize it. I’ll need at least another five de…

That's one sort of life philosophy. There are others. If I had to point out exactly where I disagree with this, I'd say I don't view "doing a meaningful thing" as a thing you do once and then you're done with life. If I can do meaningful things for a few extra decades, that's a good thing.

It’s not that you do a meaningful thing and then you’re done with life, it’s that since you have limited time, it’s a good reason to at least attempt finding something meaningful to pursue or accomplish.

When I’ve talked to longevity enthusiasts in the past I’ve never really gotten a good answer to “Why?” in a philosophical or even practical sense. It’s never “Outlive my enemies” or “Finish reading Gravity’s Rainbow”, it’s generally been “To avoid dying,” which to me is a pretty depressing proposition. It’s not for something, it’s running away from something, which is kind of the opposite of a search for a meaningful life.

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