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Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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First off congrats on the launch! > We spent weeks talking to 100s of engineers and discovered that their career bottleneck was not coding ability, but all the other _stuff_ that is essential for software engineering. At this point I've managed hundreds of software engineers and my assessment of the situation is in line with yours. So much so that I actually have a deck prepared for explaining this exact point to eng…

I'd love to check out this deck you made, is there a public version available? Or feel free to email it to me at rahul@jointaro.com.

Definitely agree that the advice that moves the needle depends on the engineer. That's why we like the community + Q&A angle to capture the nuances for each engineer.

Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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After looking through these comments and thinking through my own career to date in Big 3 automotive followed by AV work, I think I have to agree -- the lift to get from your Meta/Robinhood experience to information useful to the people in the other 80+% of the software industry, much less hardware/embedded/non-software-software companies is going to be enormous. I wish that there was a good solution for people who wa…

I think for the highest levels (e.g. Chief Engineer as you mention), there's really no replacement to knowing the right people. You simply need a long enough relationship with someone that they trust you at that level.

However, for many other roles, there's still a ton of insights + best practices that can meaningfully help engineers achieve their career goal. Alex and I don't have all the answers, but as a community with ambitious people, there's a very good chance you can find what you need.

Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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Bad: why would someone qualified to give advice want to join the community? What prevents your forums from devolving into the blind leading the blind? Yes, that's my experience with cscareerquestions, lots of questions about the big 4, doing leetcode to get into google, facebook, etc. A lot less about where most programmers are probably employed, small to medium businesses doing boring ETL, large companies in a enter…

As a side note: check out /r/ExperiencedDevs.

I wasn't aware of this subreddit, thanks.

Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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At first glance, I like the idea. But after thinking about it, there is something I really dislike. So much that it would make me want to lurk exclusively.

I will be paying you money for the privilege of posting questions (content) to your platform.

These questions will generate answers and discussions (more content). You now own this content, and it will be used to lure future customers by giving them an enticing preview, followed by a paywall. Once they are past the paywall, this content, that I helped create, and that you now own, will be something that adds value to your product.

I am assuming that the people providing advice during early stages are primarily paid seeders, and/or contributors with other incentives, such as shares in your company.

I assume that the long-term plan is that both sides will consist of paid subscribers.

I’m sure there are people who will pay to freely provide you with ownership of their advice for others. They might not even need the money. They will be content with receiving access to a community that is paywalled, unanonymous, and heavily moderated, in exchange for the subscription fee and their efforts.

But that’s not how I feel. So my question is, where’s my cut?

Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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post #64

At first glance, I like the idea. But after thinking about it, there is something I really dislike. So much that it would make me want to lurk exclusively. I will be paying you money for the privilege of posting questions (content) to your platform. These questions will generate answers and discussions (more content). You now own this content, and it will be used to lure future customers by giving them an enticing pr…

Thanks for sharing your perspective, no one has actually brought this up among the 100+ Taro Premium members we have.

I view our product as more than a Q&A database. Certainly getting questions answered is valuable part, and our goal is to make that interaction high-quality and easy (a coach can often be hundreds of dollars an hour). However, we also offer case studies from tech veterans and community features such as member matching.

We're focused on delivering as much career growth to members as possible. Working with this group of software engineers, the cost of upskilling pays for itself very, very quickly (we charge <0.1% of yearly comp for typical mid-level engineer in FAANG).

Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

#67

Interesting! This reminds me of /r/cscareerquestions: both the good and the bad. Good: you're trying to create a space where a lot of people have similar professional goals and can riff off each other. Better: the two of you have a lot of content backed by your own, verifiable, professional experiences. Bad: why would someone qualified to give advice want to join the community? What prevents your forums from devolvin…

It's funny you mention the blind since it's the name of an another approach in the same space, teamblind.com

TC (total compensation) or GTFO, is their oft-touted mantra, for good or ill.

Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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I've been working in the SW industry for around two decades now, and I see a distinct difference since the last 5 years, which is that everyone is optimizing all their actions towards their next promotion.

Prior to this time frame and more so in the last decade, there was a lot of focus on mastery of SW skills and even towards random exploration and learning, and all of that appears to have been lost. I personally felt all this has accelerated with the increase in big tech compensation, and levels.fyi and blind information.

The challenge with a greedy approach is that a career spans over multiple decades, and a lot of careers plateau over local minima and often one may have to down level or restart careers to find their true calling and excellence and the career growth that follows. This is better done at the beginning of the career when risks are lower than at a late career stage.

Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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post #68

I've been working in the SW industry for around two decades now, and I see a distinct difference since the last 5 years, which is that everyone is optimizing all their actions towards their next promotion. Prior to this time frame and more so in the last decade, there was a lot of focus on mastery of SW skills and even towards random exploration and learning, and all of that appears to have been lost. I personally fe…

Deep software skills are critical for success. But we've found that many software engineers are surprised with how many other skills they need to build in order to advance in their career (and I'd argue these skills have always been important).

Re: Launch HN: Taro (YC S22): Private career growth community for software engineers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s even a “10x profession”?

Jobs where the difference in output between the best and worst is 10x. Generally creative professions like movie director, writer/journalist, lawyer, etc. SWE tends to fall into this category because the difficulty of writing good code is in some respects like writing good prose: the space of "solutions" is vast and there are few well defined rules by which a "good" solution can be constructed. Not only that, but wri…

Something software engineers came up with to feel exceptional. There’re great people in most professions, but this “10x” concept is completely subjective and not quantifiable.
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