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Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by bsima »

user00012-ab wrote: post #59

I would love to see a site where people posted stuff they have been doing for over a year and it still works for them. Seems like all these blog posts are, "I Started doing this yesterday, and I'm going to do it for the rest of my life... or tomorrow when I blog my next big thing I'm going to do forever." I'm more interested in stuff people have stuck with and actually works for them when the novelty of the medium we…

I have roughly ten years of notebooks in a box under my desk. They are all some kind of “bullet journal” method: date at the top of the page, items below, index in the back.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by ljvmiranda »

user00012-ab wrote: post #59

I would love to see a site where people posted stuff they have been doing for over a year and it still works for them. Seems like all these blog posts are, "I Started doing this yesterday, and I'm going to do it for the rest of my life... or tomorrow when I blog my next big thing I'm going to do forever." I'm more interested in stuff people have stuck with and actually works for them when the novelty of the medium we…

Hi there, author here! Been using pen and paper (for knowledge work) since 2017. Hope that helps

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by user00012-ab »

ljvmiranda wrote: post #62
user00012-ab wrote: post #59

I would love to see a site where people posted stuff they have been doing for over a year and it still works for them. Seems like all these blog posts are, "I Started doing this yesterday, and I'm going to do it for the rest of my life... or tomorrow when I blog my next big thing I'm going to do forever." I'm more interested in stuff people have stuck with and actually works for them when the novelty of the medium we…

Hi there, author here! Been using pen and paper (for knowledge work) since 2017. Hope that helps

that does help, thanks!

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by wainstead »

jxy wrote: post #29

People thinking pen and paper is simple have intentionally made it simple. Have you considered how many different kinds of paper/notebooks/slides/cards, kinds of pen/pencil/brush? Soon you'll start fiddling with your pens and papers, as some comments here have already started suggesting their personal favorite, including making your custom "eye dropper" pen. Taking the same approach to pen and paper, digital interfac…

Line editors for the win.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by dwringer »

dakr wrote: post #43
soogwoog wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you can use different inks other than compatible carts?

I use a syringe to refill cartridges from whatever bottle of ink I want to use. The cartridges can be reused many many times. edit: lol, if I had reloaded the page before commenting, I would have seen all of these people saying the same thing!

> edit: [...]

Every time fountain pens come up on HN I'm amazed how active the discussion gets.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by ljvmiranda »

bbonamici wrote: post #14
tartoran wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Your pen can be converted into an "eye dropper" pen with a little bit of silicon grease and a small rubber gasket, and you'll rarely need to refill it. Please expand on this. I’m utterly confused as to what you mean and why you’d need it.

idk op's specifics, but some pens use ink cartridges; by sealing the body of the pen, you can fill it with ink, have way more capacity and you can refill it.

My daily driver (Lamy 2000) has a piston converter and I find its capacity quite large, i.e., I need to refill it every week or so.

Cartridges are great too, but I seem stuck with a few options. Lany cartridges are great but it's the only decent one I can find here.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by coldblues »

For me, what feels like quicksand, is writing on paper. I type very fast on my keyboard 120+ WPM. I want to get my thoughts out of my head as soon as possible, and shape them fast with immediate feedback. My notes are very random and they're all over the place, yet all easily interconnected and searchable because of backlinks and some minimal organization. If I were taking physical notes, I would not have as many notes as I have now, and would be less motivated. The computer is an extension of myself at this point, and it feels more natural than writing on paper.

I think the author might have chosen the traditional way of note-taking, because he just doesn't have the patience or the particular obsession to tailor the note-taking system. Which is fair, but it might do him a disservice if he ends up impatient with the system he is building now. There is a reason, after all, that so many people switched to digital. Even if the author prefers the romanticized way of old note-taking, it is undoubtedly inefficient. It's an experience akin to using ${Editor} over Vim.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by kstrauser »

user00012-ab wrote: post #59

I would love to see a site where people posted stuff they have been doing for over a year and it still works for them. Seems like all these blog posts are, "I Started doing this yesterday, and I'm going to do it for the rest of my life... or tomorrow when I blog my next big thing I'm going to do forever." I'm more interested in stuff people have stuck with and actually works for them when the novelty of the medium we…

Same here. I wrote about my experiences here: https://honeypot.net/post/digital-notes-are-better-than-pape...

In summary, I kept reading about people who prefer paper, or why paper is better than digital, but I just can't get into it. I've tried, with nice tools and a daily commitment to using them, but it just doesn't work for me.

The best compromise I've found is a nice size Rocketbook that I can easily OCR into a notes app later.

Re: Thinking with pen and paper

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Post by tevrede »

bsima wrote: post #61
user00012-ab wrote: post #59

I would love to see a site where people posted stuff they have been doing for over a year and it still works for them. Seems like all these blog posts are, "I Started doing this yesterday, and I'm going to do it for the rest of my life... or tomorrow when I blog my next big thing I'm going to do forever." I'm more interested in stuff people have stuck with and actually works for them when the novelty of the medium we…

I have roughly ten years of notebooks in a box under my desk. They are all some kind of “bullet journal” method: date at the top of the page, items below, index in the back.

Do you ever refer back to them?
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