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Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo

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Post by mytailorisrich »

Ensorceled wrote: post #74
mytailorisrich wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The picture he posted is so obviously and visibly a slice of chorizo that it really is no more than a good joke, nothing smug about it. IMHO, it does demonstrate his point very well if some people took his statement that it was Proxima Centauri at face value simply because he is an expert.

It is not "obviously and visibly a slice of chorizo" to me ... google pictures of venus and it's not clear that this photo is in any way clearly a fake to a lay person.

A lay person will know chorizo much better than celestial bodies, at least in Europe. Of course there will always be someone to say they don't know what chorizo looks like but that's life... Otherwise we cannot do anything.

Anyway, it's odd that people would argue on this instead of just laughing it off as "well played", but people argue over everything these days...

Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo

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Post by AlgorithmicTime »

heywoodlh wrote: post #43
Perceval wrote: post #9

This article presupposes that Proxima Centauri is not, in fact, made of chorizo. Whereas we have long known that the moon is made of cheese. I think Klein is floating a test balloon to gauge the public's willingness to consume the 'celestial charcuterie' theory of the heavens.

It would be a lot of fun if someone competent with physics explained how celestial bodies would behave if they were made of meat. That'd be a fun Youtube video imo.

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Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo

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Post by bad416f1f5a2 »

MichaelCollins wrote: post #65
nsxwolf wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it makes you feel any better, it's essentially impossible to convince a moon landing hoax believer they are wrong.

This hasn't been my experience. A lot of people say they think the moon landing was fake because they have a general distrust of anything the government says, and are particularly skeptical of anything from the cold war era. But they may still be willing to listen to reason if you approach the subject with a compassionate mindset, not shaming them for questioning authority but instead acknowledging the basic legitima…

No matter what your belief is, I think we can all agree that a user with the name Michael Collins defending the moon landings is probably one of the best examples of nominative determinism we will ever get

Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo

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Post by KennyBlanken »

carlmr wrote: post #24
bad416f1f5a2 wrote: post #4

> A photo tweeted by a famous French physicist supposedly of Proxima Centauri by the James Webb Space Telescope was actually a slice of chorizo. > … > Klein told French news outlet Le Point that his intention had been to educate people about fake news online While I respect the position that people should always check sources, “person famous in their field posts a lie about something well within their field, then tut…

>believe the expert According to his tweet it wasn't so much fake news, but appeal to authority he wanted to make people aware of. https://nitter.rako.space/EtienneKlein/status/15537792036524...

Which is silly because that's not what an appeal to authority is.

Appeal to authority is defending/supporting an argument by citing the authority of the person presenting it.

It's not the inclination people have to take at face value information of low-consequence/importance because it's within the field of the speaker's expertise.

Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo

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Post by turzmo »

carlmr wrote: post #24
bad416f1f5a2 wrote: post #4

> A photo tweeted by a famous French physicist supposedly of Proxima Centauri by the James Webb Space Telescope was actually a slice of chorizo. > … > Klein told French news outlet Le Point that his intention had been to educate people about fake news online While I respect the position that people should always check sources, “person famous in their field posts a lie about something well within their field, then tut…

>believe the expert According to his tweet it wasn't so much fake news, but appeal to authority he wanted to make people aware of. https://nitter.rako.space/EtienneKlein/status/15537792036524...

I think that undermines the inherent objectiveness of scientists. If people have to be skeptical of scientists they will not believe anything that they say (take the ideas of relativity or quantum mechanics). Scientists have one thing going for them in public communication and trustworthiness is it.

Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo

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Post by lomaprietasolo »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #49
heywoodlh wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be a lot of fun if someone competent with physics explained how celestial bodies would behave if they were made of meat. That'd be a fun Youtube video imo.

I think that if there were a ball of meat the size of a star, it would collapse into an actual star, although smaller and more dense. I would really be interested to know what Steller atomic composition most closely matches that of a sausage.

Randall Munroe covered this in his Mole of Moles thought experiment.

"What would happen if you were to gather a mole (unit of measurement) of moles (the small furry critter) in one place?"

https://what-if.xkcd.com/4/

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