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French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo
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Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo
#52It's amazing how little coverage this story gets, and no coverage at all from mainstream media. They don't seem to cover any story that would bring their credibility into question. https://metro.co.uk/2022/08/05/french-physicist-forced-to-ap... Even the headline of the article I linked above is misleading: "Scientist tried to pass off piece of chorizo as a distant star" -- Proxima Centauri is the nearest star to Eart…
Why would twitter joke be massively covered ?
Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo
#53Cmon we've been joking with exactly this picture for years now on the internet. The other really popular joke one is the pancake that, specially in B&W, looks like a moon! https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pancake-that-resemb...
These aren't the times for such jokes.
Many people take this as proof of lying experts that ridicule the non experts.
You can make these jokes in your peer group but outsiders of these group may feel degraded.
Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo
#54Yawn. Please redirect this to r/all
Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo
#55> A photo tweeted by a famous French physicist supposedly of Proxima Centauri by the James Webb Space Telescope was actually a slice of chorizo. > … > Klein told French news outlet Le Point that his intention had been to educate people about fake news online While I respect the position that people should always check sources, “person famous in their field posts a lie about something well within their field, then tut…
>believe the expert According to his tweet it wasn't so much fake news, but appeal to authority he wanted to make people aware of. https://nitter.rako.space/EtienneKlein/status/15537792036524...
Appealing to authority is not wholly awful. In an instance of a low-risk decision (whether to trust an authority) it seems shitty for him to try to make this a lesson on it.
If an Astronomer posts something to a bunch of people who know nothing about space and just like cool pictures, why taunt them with how they can't tell a zoomed-in chunk of fat from a sunspot?
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Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo
#57I worked with a guy that said the moon landing was fake. The only evidence he could provide was the number of images of space that claim to be real but end up being doctored or fake, every time I called him out on his bs I was wrong and the image was fake. Thanks Scientists!
Nvidia faked the moon landing pictures back in 2014:
https://www.cnet.com/science/nvidia-silences-moon-landing-co...
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2018/10/11/turing-recreates-lu...
The conspiracy crowd likes to claim the illumination in the real photos is wrong. What better way to show off your photo realistic light model?
Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo
#58Cmon we've been joking with exactly this picture for years now on the internet. The other really popular joke one is the pancake that, specially in B&W, looks like a moon! https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/pancake-that-resemb...
These aren't the times for such jokes. Many people take this as proof of lying experts that ridicule the non experts. You can make these jokes in your peer group but outsiders of these group may feel degraded.
> These aren't the times for such jokes. Many people take this as proof of lying experts that ridicule the non experts.
You can make these jokes in your peer group but outsiders of these group may feel degraded.
On the contrary, I've spent the last 2 years watching "experts" in my own field make absolute fools of themselves, to the point where a number of formerly respected leaders in science and medicine have lost all credibility. The kind of "expert" that would mindlessly re-tweet an obvious picture of a salami as a scientific discovery is giving you prima facie evidence that you should have some level of doubt concerning their judgment.
The general public needs to be more informed of the following two facts:
* Appeals to authority, no matter how credentialed, are not arguments. Always start from the assumption that the "expert" is wrong until you can prove otherwise. If you aren't capable of evaluating the evidence for yourself, don't repeat it.
* You don't know what you don't hear. Even if you have heard from a true "expert", the media will regularly distort or cherry-pick their sources to make whatever sensational claim that drives clicks. So-called "experts" are often pulled from a list of twitter users that are tweeting in support of a reporter's desired headline just prior to deadline, and all other experts' opinions are ignored.
I'll add a bonus:
* Celebrity is a hell of a drug. Even the most credible speaker faces an almost irresistible force to dress up factual claims with opinions. Particularly if they're personally scared / emotional, on one of those horrid cable news panels, or both.
Bottom line: if you don't have training in a discipline, you aren't qualified to judge a claim within it. Treat the whole thing as no different than a television program about celebrity gossip, because that is what it is to you. Don't just blindly trust a quote or a talking head simply because some writer/producer at a news agency told you to trust them.
Re: French scientist's photo of ‘distant star’ was chorizo
#59TikTok level humor now entering HN.
I see this as pretty high brow academic trolling in vein of the Sokal hoax [0] - but I suppose it's a sign of the times the "publication" is a single tweet. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sokal_affair
It’s only a troll if you tricked people. How many of the 12000 tweet likes were people liking the joke vs people legit confused? The article quotes two of them.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would be a lot of fun if someone competent with physics explained how celestial bodies would behave if they were made of meat. That'd be a fun Youtube video imo.
I think that if there were a ball of meat the size of a star, it would collapse into an actual star, although smaller and more dense. I would really be interested to know what Steller atomic composition most closely matches that of a sausage.
Maybe not that much smaller? The density of meat is close to 1gm/cm³, that of the sun about 1.41gm/cm³, but the sun is relatively small for a star and larger stars are less dense.
I’m neither an astrophysicist nor a food expert, but sausages have lots of carbon and contain a reasonable amount of water and thus, oxygen, so I don’t see young stars match them chemically. Maybe, some really old ones will, fairly short befor they run out of stuff to fuse.
If you limit things to a star’s atmosphere, you may have better luck (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_star)