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My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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I had a feeling this was gonna be about 3D Touch just from seeing the title. It was definitely one of my favorite features, and Force Touch isn't a drop-in replacement. With 3D Touch anywhere on the keyboard, you could apply pressure to start moving the caret (text cursor) around, but what was even more useful was being able to apply a little bit more pressure to start selecting text with incredible precision . With…

I will probably soon add an old 3D Touch iphone to my small Human Machine Interface hall of fame along with the old click wheel iPod Classic. They probably removed it because nobody was using it and they couldn't figure out how to teach people, while spending extra $ to add it into phones.

In addition to what you mentioned they were unable to bring it to the iPad.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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> press and hold on safari address bar for voice search

> press and hold tab icon in safari for closing tabs and creating new private tab

> press and release on the navigation dots at the bottom of Home Screen to get an overview of all screens and you get to show or hide the screens

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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I really do miss force touch.

I long felt like once all iPhones (that supported the most recent iOS) had the feature than they could really take it and run with it in iOS. But this never happened.

But the usability improvements of it were great. In music ALL the time I would hold down on a song to pull up the menu, keep my finger down and scroll down to add to next, and lift up to select it. One swipe and I did what I wanted. I could do that quicker than it takes it to register that I am holding down in the first place now. It worked the same was as anything on the Menu on a Mac (holding down and releasing doing the command) and it just felt super intuitive.

I won't deny that it had a discoverability issue, but that feels like the wrong reason to remove the technology.

I am glad this technology still exists on the watch, which has an OS that was always designed with this in mind. So I think it works well there.

I long hope this comes back. But I have to imagine there is a reason this never came to the iPad so maybe that was a major contributor to it being cut.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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What's usually missing from these comparisons is how long people are actually using the phone and how they handle the battery. Mine is an iPhone 7 I bought refurbished back in February 2017. This phone is likely to have seen less use than a friend of mine's phone bought at the end of 2021. It spends 95% of its life connected to a power source (even when I actively use it), so I expect the battery to last quite some t…

Being constantly charging is actually bad for the battery life. Being around 100% stresses it… so that’s why some Apple devices now try to determine how much charge is needed and keep it at 80% if possible

1.5 years old 12 Pro, 83% battery health.

But I mostly do iOS software engineering, so the device spends most of it’s time plugged in.

In a few months, it won’t even need to try to stay under 80% anymore. It just will.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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> However, as much as I miss it every time I fail to accurately select text on iOS, I don't mourn its loss Yes, it's slightly worse now but for a greater cause and the greater cause, IMHO, is the unified interaction model on mobile devices. If not all devices and apps are using it there's no reason to having it. In the Android world there are tons of exotic stuff, novel ideas and even "standards" that go nowhere unle…

I too enjoy the removal of innovation and excellence in the quest for equality comrade

> I too enjoy the removal of innovation and excellence in the quest for equality comrade

I think you misunderstood. This is not an argument for equality at all, the problem with patchy support is that few bother to implement features against because it costs time and money and as a result fades into usbcuirity.

Having uniform platform is a very effective for innovations success. It makes sense for Apple and the developers to have the hardware based 3D touch with a software based alternative so that it can work on all devices the same way.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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As if they put any effort whatsoever into teaching or UI discoverability these days. If there was a tutorial app I would have used it, but I have repeatedly had to use Google to find unrelated blog sites describing how to accomplish things in the iOS interface. Cynically, it feels like they think everyone should already "just know" how the various gestures work, which is obnoxious and user hostile.

As someone who only occasionally has to use macOS and iOS for work. The gestures and key combos required to do even the most basic things are insane.. and there is (almost) zero discoverability or affordances for them. On iOS gestures with multiple fingers, on macOS keyboard shortcuts with 3 or 4 keys. I also dont often use Linux, but I could try some new distro with a completely different windows manager I have neve…

> there is zero discoverability

The shortcuts associated with menu items are shown in the menu item. I realize that there other discovery problems with keyboard shortcuts (on all platforms) but there is non-zero discoverability for "the most basic things" on Mac OS.

Gesture discoverability is much closer to zero, IMHO.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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I was just thinking, was the only time some solid human interface design work was put into practice at a large scale, when apple and MS copied the work by Xerox parc?

Like, everything else since then seems to just have been some stupid gimmick driven by the bean counters and not any evidence based approach. I assume modern academic human interface designers have been going quietly insane for the past few decades.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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I'm glad you understood how to activate 3d touch as opposed to normal touch and long touch. I've had this iphone XS since it was a new model and I still haven't figured it out. This trackpad mode sounds interesting though, I'll try it :)

I think the feature got more confusing as Apple started to phase it out. They dropped the feature where you could force-touch to select text (on e.g. a web page rather than typing) and press harder again to select eg sentences/paragraphs. They also made force touch and long press do the same thing in many cases. I think about the only place it works well is in the keyboard but sadly there are now a bunch of bugs ther…

The one thing I remember was buying the phone when the model was like 6 months since launch, pressing on an app icon on the desktop and randomly getting either the 'move the apps' state or the context menu with apparently no logic to it.

And nothing's changed since then. Sorry. It's too confusing.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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Totally agree with the keyboard and predictive typing being a huge problem child that needs serious attention at this point. Some frustrations I have been dealing with: - The two word replacement pattern is immensely frustrating and leads to typos, e.g., where “AI” seems to think it knows better what I was trying to write and changes the previous correct word based on what it thinks I am trying to currently type/swip…

> The random capitalizations for no apparent reason, sometimes even mid word, and no, not from accidentally hitting shift, even during swipe typing. I've never had capitalization for no apparent reason (maybe I didn't pay enough attention), but I have a similar pet peeve, where the AI learns "a bit too much". I write a lot of French, and a fairly common phrase I type is "c'est chiant" (that sucks). At first, it would…

Autocorrect has a way of avoiding spicy language and replacing it with something unrelated. Me, I'm tired of this ducking shot.
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