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My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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I still use an iPhone XS and that's one of my favorite features that it has, I use it all the time and it's a shame it's not still there, kind of holding me back from upgrading

I use an iPhone XS too. I love this feature & did not know it was 3D touch-specific.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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There clearly was a discoverability issue with 3D Touch. When you knew which app supported the feature, it was awesome but there was no way of knowing in advance if there was support for it before using it. Long pressing an icon or anything just to see that nothing happens was just frustrating. Long term effect was that users probably felt this wasn't reliable/supported enough to use the feature at all or at least no…

The interesting part to me is, replacements for 3D Touch aren't that much more discoverable: you'll need to be randomly long pressing icons, buttons, sometimes specific areas in apps to discover they have additional menus.

Getting rid of 3DTouch feels to me more like a hardware cost reduction (+ harmonizing the system with the iPad) than anything.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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post #15

I actually used to turn 3D Touch off on my older iPhones. I just always use that long press on the space bar to move the cursor. 3D Touch is interesting from a technical point of view but it makes manufacture more complex and using the phone more complicated than it needs to be. I was always activating it by accident. When it was first announced I was excited that haptic feedback would allow us to feel the edges of t…

> I just always use that long press on the space bar to move the cursor.

So the cursor navigation feature activates on long press of the space bar, in iPhone models that don't have 3D touch?

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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post #47
post #36

I had a feeling this was gonna be about 3D Touch just from seeing the title. It was definitely one of my favorite features, and Force Touch isn't a drop-in replacement. With 3D Touch anywhere on the keyboard, you could apply pressure to start moving the caret (text cursor) around, but what was even more useful was being able to apply a little bit more pressure to start selecting text with incredible precision . With…

Oh wow, I never knew this existed. It seems the selection can only grow and on both sides, which is the main problem. If they showed the cursor with a different color than the selected text, and if they shrink and grow the selection as you move, I think it could be pretty nice: select the starting point of the selection, and select only what’s in between the original cursor and the moving one. Alas it’s more like pai…

The problem here is that the “move left to expand left” and “move right to expand right” doesn’t map mentally to the way a cursor works.

With a traditional cursor, it places an anchor wherever you’ve moused down and then drags the selection around that anchor.

Whereas with Haptic Touch selection, there’s no anchor, so you find yourself selecting text you didn’t mean to. I’m sure that once you’ve gotten used to it, it’s a nice feature; but it’s not intuitive if you’re not accustomed to it (which seems to be the majority of folks).

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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post #36

I had a feeling this was gonna be about 3D Touch just from seeing the title. It was definitely one of my favorite features, and Force Touch isn't a drop-in replacement. With 3D Touch anywhere on the keyboard, you could apply pressure to start moving the caret (text cursor) around, but what was even more useful was being able to apply a little bit more pressure to start selecting text with incredible precision . With…

> However, as much as I miss it every time I fail to accurately select text on iOS, I don't mourn its loss

Yes, it's slightly worse now but for a greater cause and the greater cause, IMHO, is the unified interaction model on mobile devices. If not all devices and apps are using it there's no reason to having it.

In the Android world there are tons of exotic stuff, novel ideas and even "standards" that go nowhere unless Apple implements it.

There is a magic in general availability. I think, if all Apple devices had it, it could have been possible to rely on its existence and build the UI with that assumption in mind. With just some devices having it, you need to have few versions of the UI to handle each case.

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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post #36

I had a feeling this was gonna be about 3D Touch just from seeing the title. It was definitely one of my favorite features, and Force Touch isn't a drop-in replacement. With 3D Touch anywhere on the keyboard, you could apply pressure to start moving the caret (text cursor) around, but what was even more useful was being able to apply a little bit more pressure to start selecting text with incredible precision . With…

I’ve been so sad since upgrading my 6s about the loss of 3D Touch. I didn’t know that you can hold on the space bar now!!! Thank you for making me love my 13 mini even more now :):)

Re: My favorite iPhone feature was removed, long live its subpar replacement

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I didn't even knew that my favorite iPhone feature was listening to the music I want until Apple introduced forced shuffling, playing titles alphabetically and started disturbing built-in music player UX in order to push their online offering. It's a typical Cook's Apple experience to listen to 10 tracks from different albums, all called "Outro", after album chosen by me finishes playing with a track called "Outro" a…

For me the complete opposite: I LOVE the shuffling with their library. Pick one song I shazamed and poof, I get to listen to "random" "identical" songs for hours. A gem.

To each their own. I would only like to have control over shuffling, like not being forced to turn it off several times a day.

I have different kinds of music. When at the gym, classical music is the last genre from my library I'd like to listen. When listening to ambient during work I don't want to suddenly get hard rock or rap. Preferably no vocals at all.

The iTunes.app was capable of playing the music I wanted. Things went sideways when it was renamed to Music.app.

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