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Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Post by stubish »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #31
pabs3 wrote: post #16

This is apparently only for one particular kind of fast-growing coral, which means coral diversity is lower and that makes the reef more vulnerable to damage and less supportive of the wider ecosystem: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-04/great-barrier-reef-re...

Can we just have a moment of happiness? Of optimism?

Not really sorry. Climate policy in Australia is going through Parliament right now (and while much more progressive than the previous government, the result still have the Greens stating the targets are not aggressive enough and will doom the reef).

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Post by pabs3 »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #31
pabs3 wrote: post #16

This is apparently only for one particular kind of fast-growing coral, which means coral diversity is lower and that makes the reef more vulnerable to damage and less supportive of the wider ecosystem: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-04/great-barrier-reef-re...

Can we just have a moment of happiness? Of optimism?

I think it is important to be realistic and act accordingly, otherwise you could end up in a worse situation due to insufficiently detailed/correct information.

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Post by JacobThreeThree »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #31
pabs3 wrote: post #16

This is apparently only for one particular kind of fast-growing coral, which means coral diversity is lower and that makes the reef more vulnerable to damage and less supportive of the wider ecosystem: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-08-04/great-barrier-reef-re...

Can we just have a moment of happiness? Of optimism?

Nobody can have any optimism, everyone must hold the view that the Great Barrier Reef is in imminent peril. If you don't and are vocal about it, you risk your career.

https://phys.org/news/2021-10-court-physicist-intellectual-f...

>Australia's highest court Wednesday dismissed an intellectual freedom claim by a university physicist who was fired in part over his public statements that scientists exaggerated damage to the Great Barrier Reef caused by climate change.

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Post by phist_mcgee »

grecy wrote: post #5

Coincidentally I went diving on the GBR last week, and from personal observation, it's in way, way, way worse condition that it was 20 years ago. There are massive sections of bleached coral, huge dead patches and way less fish life. Here's how it looked last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0h0j0PSqaY In 2015 the Aussie government tried to have it de-listed as a UNESCO site so they could dredge it (Nobody had…

Cool to see you on hacker news!

I've been following your travels for quite a while!

Keep up the great content :)

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Post by thaumasiotes »

darkerside wrote: post #47
_AzMoo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why don't you think humans will adapt as well?

Some of us will, and it'll suck for the rest. You know evolution is made of dying, right?

> You know evolution is made of dying, right?

Not true in the slightest; evolution is solely driven by differential reproduction rates. You'll see evolutionary dynamics even if every organism you study is immortal and invulnerable.

Dying is just one of many things that affect your ability to reproduce.

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Post by dtjb »

JacobThreeThree wrote: post #53
throwaway5959 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we just have a moment of happiness? Of optimism?

Nobody can have any optimism, everyone must hold the view that the Great Barrier Reef is in imminent peril. If you don't and are vocal about it, you risk your career. https://phys.org/news/2021-10-court-physicist-intellectual-f... >Australia's highest court Wednesday dismissed an intellectual freedom claim by a university physicist who was fired in part over his public statements that scientists exaggerated damage to…

>Beginning in April 2016, James Cook University took a number of disciplinary measures over two years against Ridd, which culminated in Ridd being fired, for refusing to take down confidential information which he had placed publicly online. The university denied that the dismissal was over Ridd's views on climate change.

Looks like it went back in forth in court for a few years, with the university ultimately winning on appeal that he was fired for cause (posting confidential info).

https://sterlinglawqld.com/peter-ridd-loses-high-court-appea...

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/HCA//...

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Post by 2muchcoffeeman »

dtjb wrote: post #57
JacobThreeThree wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody can have any optimism, everyone must hold the view that the Great Barrier Reef is in imminent peril. If you don't and are vocal about it, you risk your career. https://phys.org/news/2021-10-court-physicist-intellectual-f... >Australia's highest court Wednesday dismissed an intellectual freedom claim by a university physicist who was fired in part over his public statements that scientists exaggerated damage to…

>Beginning in April 2016, James Cook University took a number of disciplinary measures over two years against Ridd, which culminated in Ridd being fired, for refusing to take down confidential information which he had placed publicly online. The university denied that the dismissal was over Ridd's views on climate change. Looks like it went back in forth in court for a few years, with the university ultimately winnin…

I don't doubt that his views made the decision easier. But people made this a political issue. So it can't be fought with just facts anymore. There's going to be some politicking involved.

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Post by LilBytes »

stubish wrote: post #51
throwaway5959 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we just have a moment of happiness? Of optimism?

Not really sorry. Climate policy in Australia is going through Parliament right now (and while much more progressive than the previous government, the result still have the Greens stating the targets are not aggressive enough and will doom the reef).

This election really renewed my fucking optimism, at least locally for Australia, though globally it still feels dire.
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