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Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. I see a lot of articles that scare me lately. They make it sound like business owners should do these things. These stories are the exception, not the rule.

Building companies as successful as Twitter and Square are also the exception, not the rule.

He didn't build Twitter working this way. He's now managing its current course/growth this way.

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe "professional" effectively means "salaried". Salaried employees generally don't get overtime. Details are in a page linked from the parent (see Learned Professional Exemption): http://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/fairpay/fs17d_profess...

If you're a learned professional (matching all of the three criteria on the page - one of which is salaried), artist/creative, teacher, law/medicine practioner, or are highly compensated (making > $100,000/year) overtime doesn't apply to you. At least, that's what I got out of the page.

The definition of Overtime is actually getting paid, yes? The law I am referring to over in the E.U is actually working, full stop - paid or not. I am at a position where I am not paid any overtime - I'm still not allowed to be present at work for more than 70 hours a week. Does nothing like this exist in the U.S? As in, you could technically work 168 hours with no legal ramifications?

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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Unfortunately, I think a lot of people may miss the most useful point of this article: blocking out days by themes as a productivity booster.

The big headline is about working 16 hours days, but that headline grabber will distract from the most useful nugget of information: how he does it.

The really cool thing about this article is theme-blocking his days. Has anyone tried that? If so, how has it worked?

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square, 0 hours at life, daily. In other words Jack is free to do whatever he likes, but it is not a good example for most of us. I'll cite a very short poetry by a Sicilian poet called Salvatore Quasimodo: "Everyone stands alone on the heart of the earth / transfixed by a ray of sunshine / and it is suddenly night"

Can anyone from Square or Twitter confirm this work schedule?

Perhaps this is actually the time he spends using each service ...

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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I posted this in the other thread about his hours: Being a manager and accutely aware of legal ramifications of hours worked (boring I know), does anyone have any insight into whether there is something in the US akin to the European Worktime Directive? Over here (UK, but the E.U as a whole) the average working week is 40 hours by law, and the worker must opt in to be eligble to work upto a maximum of 70 hours per we…

Generally not. There are some rules for people who work on an hourly basis, but I think those vary by state. For some jobs there are also safety regulations. E.g., airline pilots and truck drivers. And many union contracts have substantial restrictions.

I think here we rely more on a liquid labor market than on government regulation to encourage sane working conditions. Which definitely has its drawbacks, but has the upside of not indulging the "lump of labor" fallacy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lump_of_labour_fallacy

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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pfft... All I see in the article are 8 unproductive hours every day. Research has shown that humans really don't need 8hrs sleep to work at their optimal best and 4-5 hrs of sleep should be more than enough. He could use those extra 4 hrs every to further develop the companies or even better try launch another startup on the side. Also walking 2 blocks every day between the two companies? That seems a waste of time w…

Research has shown that humans really don't need 8hrs sleep to work at their optimal best and 4-5 hrs of sleep should be more than enough. Citation please? It's my understanding that losing even 1 hour of sleep a night will add up over time and cause all sorts of cognitive problems.

(pssst, andrewpi, I think theshaddow's parent comment is tongue-in-cheek.)

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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Good for him. Regardless of whether or not it's sustainable, I simply do not want that type of lifestyle. If I'm not as "successful" because of that, so be it.

I'd say "success" should be measured in more broad terms... "How much work do I put into my marriage/children/etc", "How much fun am I having?" etc

I'd agree, his lifestyle seems as out of balance as someone who does no work at all.

Re: Jack Dorsey does 8 hours at Twitter, 8 hours at Square daily

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I posted this in the other thread about his hours: Being a manager and accutely aware of legal ramifications of hours worked (boring I know), does anyone have any insight into whether there is something in the US akin to the European Worktime Directive? Over here (UK, but the E.U as a whole) the average working week is 40 hours by law, and the worker must opt in to be eligble to work upto a maximum of 70 hours per we…

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