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Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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I've seen this reported a lot with lots of climate change deniers triumphing. I'm not really sure what is going on. The AJ article has more detail including:

“While the coral cover is similar to what it was in the 1980s, people should not believe in any way that that means conditions on the reef are the same as they were in the 1980s,”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/4/parts-of-australias-...

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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I felt this article left some things unexplained, like what is a mass bleaching event? The wikipedia article on Coral Bleaching is excellent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_bleaching Also, cool note on the economics: “Experts estimate that coral reef services are worth up to $1.2 million per hectare which translates to an average of $172 billion per year.” Someone do the math, what is the value of this comebac…

> Someone do the math, what is the value of this comeback in USD?

About USD 120 billion.

I’m always sceptical of these claims in the media that economists say that something “could be worth up to $X billion/year” or “X costs the economy $Y billion/year”. They are based on assumptions, whose veracity may be unknowable-if not just totally unrealistic; and the error bars on such estimates must be huge, but many journalists will only cite the upper error bar.

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Coincidentally I went diving on the GBR last week, and from personal observation, it's in way, way, way worse condition that it was 20 years ago. There are massive sections of bleached coral, huge dead patches and way less fish life. Here's how it looked last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0h0j0PSqaY In 2015 the Aussie government tried to have it de-listed as a UNESCO site so they could dredge it (Nobody had…

And in the meantime, Victoria passes laws raising penalties for environmental protesters at logging sites. For the safety of workers they say.

Australia is just a few steps away from V for Vendetta.

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Coincidentally I went diving on the GBR last week, and from personal observation, it's in way, way, way worse condition that it was 20 years ago. There are massive sections of bleached coral, huge dead patches and way less fish life. Here's how it looked last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0h0j0PSqaY In 2015 the Aussie government tried to have it de-listed as a UNESCO site so they could dredge it (Nobody had…

Incredibly depressing. Wow

Not to try discount the damage (as someone who grew up in North Queensland it's absolutely heart breaking) but coral often looks worse/dead on camera.

This is because of the colour shift as you you go deeper into water, a red filter (or light sourcee) is needed to capture the colours as you're seeing them.

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post #5

Coincidentally I went diving on the GBR last week, and from personal observation, it's in way, way, way worse condition that it was 20 years ago. There are massive sections of bleached coral, huge dead patches and way less fish life. Here's how it looked last week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0h0j0PSqaY In 2015 the Aussie government tried to have it de-listed as a UNESCO site so they could dredge it (Nobody had…

I assume you're having to work hard to make a lap of Australia as intrepid as Africa!

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

#19

Could it be adapting? Standard wisdom has always seemed to be it's a sensitive niche of incredible biological complexity. Couldn't such a system be smarter than we think and evolve to meet climate change?

More likely biodiversity will reduce in the north and key species will simply begin moving south

Re: Coral makes comeback on Great Barrier Reef

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And in the meantime, Victoria passes laws raising penalties for environmental protesters at logging sites. For the safety of workers they say.

Australia is just a few steps away from V for Vendetta.

I think the pot is boiling us frogs a lot, lot slower than that.
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