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Excel never dies (2021)

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Re: Excel never dies (2021)

#61
Excel is great, but sometimes it can be abused. I have seen some horrendously complicated VBA sheets that are so much simpler to program in any procedural language.

If you want to create or read Excel spreadsheets programmatically, I recommend LibXL, a simple and powerful C++ library. https://www.libxl.com/

(I am a customer, am not associated with them).

Re: Excel never dies (2021)

#62
Excel is driving whole computing evolution - if you could count sum of all CEO quarterly bonuses and draw a neat rising graph quick enough, corporations will never upgrade their laptops and workstations.

Re: Excel never dies (2021)

#64

I recently sat down and built something more complicated than simple accounting in a spreadsheet. It's what I considered to be a pretty typical usecase for a non-math related sheet; taking in several tables of data and selectively joining them. You enter an ID, press a button, and it finds all of the data related to that ID and presents it to you. I was horrified to find that even with the supporting scripting capabi…

Many people have tried launching an Excel-with-SQL-querying product, but it’s extremely hard to do the UI well. Also products where people write SQL are impossible to insure.

Re: Excel never dies (2021)

#65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen enough cases where the opposite is the case. Businesses running off Excel spreadsheets are often very inefficient, drowning in more problems than solutions and the day to day workflows for employees are awful. I'm not trying to say a small shop should go all in with Oracle or SAP, however a healthy investment in specialised software often pays off extremely well.

Specialized software is a market for lemons. Most businesses running off Excel spreadsheets are ill-equipped to judge the vendors in question, and more often than not the net result is worse than the Excel mess.

If you are an average business with no internal expertise to evaluate vendors: well of course everyone's going to spin you whilst the money keeps flying out of your pockets. Smarter companies would at least hire people that could advise on such things.

Re: Excel never dies (2021)

#66
post #34

There are so many technologies Microsoft has tried to go all in on over the years...Internet Explorer, Edge, and .Net to name a few. Why they've never gone all in on the idea of Excel as a fundamental part of the operating system on top of which more sophisticated apps operate baffles me.

1. Excel never had a viable competitor that Microsoft needed to use their OS monopoly to exclude.

2. Excel sells for a good amount of money and they wouldn't want to cut that off.

Re: Excel never dies (2021)

#68

I recently sat down and built something more complicated than simple accounting in a spreadsheet. It's what I considered to be a pretty typical usecase for a non-math related sheet; taking in several tables of data and selectively joining them. You enter an ID, press a button, and it finds all of the data related to that ID and presents it to you. I was horrified to find that even with the supporting scripting capabi…

Google Sheets is pretty basic compared to Excel in terms of the kinds of data analysis and queries it permits (without dropping into another language). Excel added tables over a decade ago that allow for some very useful and much cleaner query and data analysis stuffs in straight Excel. Then there are power queries and pivot tables, not sure how long those two have been around but last I used Google Sheets it had nothing like either.

My point being, don't judge spreadsheets by Google Sheets. Actually use Excel and you'll see a much more capable system and get a better understanding of why people (particularly non-programmers in business settings) stick with it.

EDIT: Pivot tables are in Google Sheets, so either I missed them before or they were added after I last gave it a serious look. My google-fu is not discovering the date they were added.

Re: Excel never dies (2021)

#69
post #6

As someone with a perhaps well deserved reputation as a Microsoft hater (ha, check my history..) Microsoft Excel is perhaps the greatest program-slash-programming language ever invented. Nothing has much come close in terms of giving regular folks the power of general-purpose computing (sadly, further and further removed from what we're doing today.)

Yes, now if I kind Microsoft could fix copy and paste from the desktop to online versions…

Re: Excel never dies (2021)

#70
post #6

As someone with a perhaps well deserved reputation as a Microsoft hater (ha, check my history..) Microsoft Excel is perhaps the greatest program-slash-programming language ever invented. Nothing has much come close in terms of giving regular folks the power of general-purpose computing (sadly, further and further removed from what we're doing today.)

Yes, now if only Microsoft could fix copy and paste from the desktop to online versions…
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