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Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by adamnemecek »

rrishi wrote: post #30
altruios wrote: post #23

Price point I feel is too high for specifically what it is offering. A general point I would make. In education: cost is a barrier of entry - a smaller ask might yield far more results from people in disadvantaged situations able to scrabble up ladder. A rising tide raises all ships. You are doing work creating the material and course work - I'm not saying release stuff for free. but $80/mo is something to bat an eye…

I think the reason that the charge is that high is because they are targeting 1. people who are already in the field i.e. employed and have source of income and 2. people who are serios about it. Just my $0.02.

People who are in the field will not have time for this.

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by rohitpaulk »

avinassh wrote: post #59
debarshri wrote: post #5

I think a bigger value I see with your product is replacing leetcode challenges with something like this. We often give take home assignments to our potential candidates and this would be a great fit, if the platform had features around code evaluation, ephemeral environment with seeded data that would be great. I think that is quite a big market too.

also check out https://hackattic.com/ it has some really fun problems

Glad you mentioned this - Hackattic was in fact one of our early inspirations to start CodeCrafters :) I thoroughly enjoyed going through the challenges there: https://hackattic.com/u/rohitpaulk.

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by jjallen »

I was excited to try the Clojure track, as I have been planning on learning Clojure soon but couldn't get it to work. I attempted to start the free trial a few times and was redirected to the Go or Redis track repeatedly. So couldn't try it really.

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by thewebcount »

This is a really cool idea! I may check this out.

One concern I have is that it looks like you're having people rebuild Unix command line tools. Tools which have a tendency to look at the world in one particular way. Unfortunately, that way is not very good to users. I'm really concerned about how many different programming courses, from boot camps to graduate level CS courses, push this narrow view of programming. I'd like to see some more variety in the ways that programming is taught. Have you considered bringing in projects that have graphical user interfaces or that use different paradigms than those espoused by Unix?

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by qsort »

dnissley wrote: post #38
altruios wrote: post #23

Price point I feel is too high for specifically what it is offering. A general point I would make. In education: cost is a barrier of entry - a smaller ask might yield far more results from people in disadvantaged situations able to scrabble up ladder. A rising tide raises all ships. You are doing work creating the material and course work - I'm not saying release stuff for free. but $80/mo is something to bat an eye…

I don't think this type of resource would be all that helpful for people trying to scrabble up the ladder. They would almost certainly be much better served by countless other resources.

If you are already a professional developer though, it's also questionable what is the added value. I'm willing to trust them that the quality is top notch, but it's basically a glorified tutorial; I have to agree with GP that the price point is way too high.

I think they're targeting professional developers with self-training/learning budgets. I'd be totally down for this if my company were willing to pay the time and subscription cost. I'd certainly rather do this than some F-tier shite about Agile or whatever.

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by sarupbanskota »

tzarko wrote: post #27

Love the concept, and could see myself really benefitting from this as a self-taught developer. That said, I agree with most everyone's assessment that the price-point is a bit too high. Is providing different pricing schemes for companies/hobbyists/students something you're looking into?

Thanks for the kind words, and I appreciate your interest!

Our long-term intention is indeed to be able to help anyone who's interested to learn and grow regardless of their financial situation.

We also realise that not everyone has access to a learning budget. As an early-stage company, our pricing reflects what our current target audience is comfortable paying, and is also a test for long-term sustainability. Over time, we hope to be able to overcome pricing-related hurdles and enable broader access.

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by sarupbanskota »

altruios wrote: post #23

Price point I feel is too high for specifically what it is offering. A general point I would make. In education: cost is a barrier of entry - a smaller ask might yield far more results from people in disadvantaged situations able to scrabble up ladder. A rising tide raises all ships. You are doing work creating the material and course work - I'm not saying release stuff for free. but $80/mo is something to bat an eye…

Thanks for your suggestion!

I've touched on the topic a little more here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32345899

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by dangom »

altruios wrote: post #23

Price point I feel is too high for specifically what it is offering. A general point I would make. In education: cost is a barrier of entry - a smaller ask might yield far more results from people in disadvantaged situations able to scrabble up ladder. A rising tide raises all ships. You are doing work creating the material and course work - I'm not saying release stuff for free. but $80/mo is something to bat an eye…

Makes sense, but if there is a slack channel where people are supposed to be responsive and answer technical questions, then that's value beyond just material and course work. And given there is a community, if you set the price too low you start to get spammers and people that are not truly interested in the content, bringing down the value of the community in the first place. I think the price is fair.

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by sarupbanskota »

jjallen wrote: post #63

I was excited to try the Clojure track, as I have been planning on learning Clojure soon but couldn't get it to work. I attempted to start the free trial a few times and was redirected to the Go or Redis track repeatedly. So couldn't try it really.

I think we know what happened there (our message for the "close" button on the trial modal was confusing), and we've fixed it.

Please give it a try once more?

Re: Launch HN: CodeCrafters (YC S22) – Practice writing complex software

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Post by ethanrc »

altruios wrote: post #23

Price point I feel is too high for specifically what it is offering. A general point I would make. In education: cost is a barrier of entry - a smaller ask might yield far more results from people in disadvantaged situations able to scrabble up ladder. A rising tide raises all ships. You are doing work creating the material and course work - I'm not saying release stuff for free. but $80/mo is something to bat an eye…

It seems like they are specifically targeting engineers at big co's with learning budgets rather than people paying out of pocket. Much cheaper than sending an engineer to a conference
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