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Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by kobiguru »

eatonphil wrote: post #21
kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

Are there any reputable Indian law/policy news sites or individuals who you (or anyone) might recommend following? To be fair I can't think of any specific sites like that I follow for US law/policy news, just a variety of people on Twitter.

live Law is a legal news website and not really a policy site so is the others mentioned in the thread.

Vidhi is a legal policy think tank based.

They did a point by point break down of recommendations of JPC and explanation you can check it here [1]

https://vidhilegalpolicy.in/research/referencer-on-the-jpcs-...

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by eklavya »

klors wrote: post #29

BRICS countries are going to continue the social credit/aadhar route and the West will watch jealously. This is nothing against China/India etc., I'm sure their populations do not like the direction either.

How is social credit in PRC in any shape of form comparable to AADHAR (SSN in US)?

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by ksquarekumar »

klors wrote: post #29

BRICS countries are going to continue the social credit/aadhar route and the West will watch jealously. This is nothing against China/India etc., I'm sure their populations do not like the direction either.

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Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by krageon »

kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

"It is a democracy" doesn't mean that it isn't also a frequently irrational cesspit. That doesn't necessarily mean it's any worse than at least two other superpowers, but it does mean it's not good. It's not due to the NYTimes coverage that the country seems the way it does, it's the exported culture (i.e. it is the face of IT-related international crime) and the types of incidents that can be found there (closing off an entire province full of normal people just because some of them do things you don't like is strictly barbaric, for example).

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Post by kobiguru »

potamic wrote: post #27
kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

> the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act This bill was under discussion for 3 years. Every year the JCP keeps proposing new and different changes. After all this if you have 81/99 amendments, you have to question if it is nitpicking and stalling, especially when you have things like the Finance Bill and Farm Bill that get passed in record time. This seems like a political…

Not everything is political. I can tell you this because I work with many of indian government departments very closely. The reservations JPC highlighted will be studied and after consultation with stakeholders it will tabled again.

FYI - The committee chairman and the IT Minister are from the same political party yet they disagreed and bill got pulled.

Here is a good premier on the JPC Recommendation [1]

https://vidhilegalpolicy.in/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/JPC-P...

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Post by lbriner »

oaiey wrote: post #28

I do not understand why legislator of a non-US country is not instantly copying GDPR. It has solid spread already and the rules are adequately balancing customers, law and company interests (yes, that does not look like but hey, advertisement is still possible). International collaboration is much easier like that. GDPR has this very fancy article saying: This all applies, except a law says otherwise. As a government…

Because there will be people for whom any changes would massively affect their ability to do their work/business who would not simply accept something as comprehensive as GDPR.

As the OP article says, even if not perfect, why not start here and make amendments later to tighten things up i.e. something is better than nothing. The real problem is that legislation is glacially slow and expensive to put into law which is good (to stop kneejerk laws) but also bad since it doesn't allow you to pass the 90% that is probably agreed and worry about the sticky bits later.

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by anuraj »

kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

While that is true on rhetoric - on practice it is not. While 60% of bills went through parliamentary scrutiny prior to 2014 - the number today is just above 10%. Also Modi has the distinction of passing maximum bills without debate and bypassing the state senate altogether.

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by pvsukale3 »

eatonphil wrote: post #21
kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

Are there any reputable Indian law/policy news sites or individuals who you (or anyone) might recommend following? To be fair I can't think of any specific sites like that I follow for US law/policy news, just a variety of people on Twitter.

https://prsindia.org/
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