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Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by eatonphil »

kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

Are there any reputable Indian law/policy news sites or individuals who you (or anyone) might recommend following?

To be fair I can't think of any specific sites like that I follow for US law/policy news, just a variety of people on Twitter.

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by Kukumber »

You can guess how sovereign a country is by how they protect their own people, and how much effort they put into it (or rather their lack of motivation)

To me this looks like their government have different interests to protect, than protecting their own people

Not a great outlook for the future of India, in a world where tech will be even more predominant and cyberwarfare will pose serious threat to democracy

They are at the mercy of the american tech giants, maybe they lobby over there? I wouldn't be surprised since both Google and Microsoft are present over there

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by felixg3 »

eatonphil wrote: post #21
kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

Are there any reputable Indian law/policy news sites or individuals who you (or anyone) might recommend following? To be fair I can't think of any specific sites like that I follow for US law/policy news, just a variety of people on Twitter.

Economic Political & Weekly, caravanmagazine.in, restofworld.org

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by mynameismon »

eatonphil wrote: post #21
kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

Are there any reputable Indian law/policy news sites or individuals who you (or anyone) might recommend following? To be fair I can't think of any specific sites like that I follow for US law/policy news, just a variety of people on Twitter.

> Are there any reputable Indian law/policy news sites or individuals who you (or anyone) might recommend following?

https://www.livelaw.in is a pretty good one, it is usually very upto date and accurate.

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by mynameismon »

Kukumber wrote: post #22

You can guess how sovereign a country is by how they protect their own people, and how much effort they put into it (or rather their lack of motivation) To me this looks like their government have different interests to protect, than protecting their own people Not a great outlook for the future of India, in a world where tech will be even more predominant and cyberwarfare will pose serious threat to democracy They a…

> To me this looks like their government have different interests to protect, than protecting their own people

Where did you derive this from? They are not scrapping the bill in its entirety, rather, they are bringing out a replacement bill.

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by eatonphil »

felixg3 wrote: post #23
eatonphil wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are there any reputable Indian law/policy news sites or individuals who you (or anyone) might recommend following? To be fair I can't think of any specific sites like that I follow for US law/policy news, just a variety of people on Twitter.

Economic Political & Weekly, caravanmagazine.in, restofworld.org

Thanks!

I've followed restofworld.org for a year now and it's a really fantastic site, great mission.

However their scope is extremely broad: "Everything in developing economies for Americans", basically.

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by potamic »

kobiguru wrote: post #15

In case you are serious about understanding why it was pulled out and really care about the details for such an action, I highly recommend you check the Joint Committee on the Personal Data Protection report [1] the Press Release section where they released the 534 pages report on it. Gist of it is - the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act so the IT Ministry would rework th…

> the committee recommended major changes across the board in all sections of the act

This bill was under discussion for 3 years. Every year the JCP keeps proposing new and different changes. After all this if you have 81/99 amendments, you have to question if it is nitpicking and stalling, especially when you have things like the Finance Bill and Farm Bill that get passed in record time.

This seems like a political decision more than anything. There is also the fact that the industry does not like this bill at all, there are some powerful corporations who entered the digital consumer space recently and would be seriously inconvenienced by this move.

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by oaiey »

I do not understand why legislator of a non-US country is not instantly copying GDPR. It has solid spread already and the rules are adequately balancing customers, law and company interests (yes, that does not look like but hey, advertisement is still possible). International collaboration is much easier like that.

GDPR has this very fancy article saying: This all applies, except a law says otherwise. As a government, this is then up to you how many laws you create for your own surveillance and other state apparatus. Citizens get a nice benefit. Big companies anyway need to adhere to GDPR one way or the other due to the international market. Local companies which want to collect citizens data should get their users consent. That is not so hard. Even data privacy paranoid Germany has a private credit rating system which works for 50+ years.

There is no other reason except corruption/lobbyism which would require a legislator to vote against a GDPR like approach. There is no risk to your economy by introducing good data privacy.

Just a rant. India might have its reasons.

Re: Indian government withdraws Personal Data Protection Bill

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Post by ksquarekumar »

yiamvino wrote: post #14
1sembiyan wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not more dangerous to fellow humans than other kinds of world leaders, surely? America, without nationalist populists at the helm these past two decades, was clearly dangerous to the people of Afghanistan and Iraq (unless they are not part of humanity). Self-serving politicians are the rule across the world, not exceptions. The best we can hope for is one person is not in power for too long.

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