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Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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Two months ago my contract was up with AT&T, so I decided "What the hell, I'm going to purchase an iPhone(4)!". So I did. Turns out, after all the hype I was completely underwhelmed by it. It's not that it's a bad phone, it's great. It's just that the general OS feels tired to me. The interface. I ended up playing with a Samsung Focus a few days later in the same AT&T store and swapped my iPhone for it. I'm incredibly happy with this phone, and the Mango update addressed many of my concerns. Microsoft did well on the core features with this phone, which for a user like me is everything. I'm not a particularly heavy app user, so the seeming lack of quality apps doesn't bother me (even though there seems to have been an upturn in good apps lately).

Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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It's worth noting that Apple spent years working on their own software tools to retain a minimal level of software parity with Windows. Macs were dismissed for years as not having the same wealth of software that PCs had, especially in the gaming world. Nobody says that anymore.

True, Steam and the Mac App Store have largely remedied that, but the amount of titles available (and release date) are still quite a bit behind Windows. I've also noticed my games (Source games in Steam and Minecraft) push more fps when I boot my MBA in Windows 7. (although I don't fault OS X for that - it's probably a developer/driver issue).

Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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Two months ago my contract was up with AT&T, so I decided "What the hell, I'm going to purchase an iPhone(4)!". So I did. Turns out, after all the hype I was completely underwhelmed by it. It's not that it's a bad phone, it's great. It's just that the general OS feels tired to me. The interface. I ended up playing with a Samsung Focus a few days later in the same AT&T store and swapped my iPhone for it. I'm incredibl…

>It's just that the general OS feels tired to me.

What does this even mean?

Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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post #23

It's worth noting that Apple spent years working on their own software tools to retain a minimal level of software parity with Windows. Macs were dismissed for years as not having the same wealth of software that PCs had, especially in the gaming world. Nobody says that anymore.

True, Steam and the Mac App Store have largely remedied that, but the amount of titles available (and release date) are still quite a bit behind Windows. I've also noticed my games (Source games in Steam and Minecraft) push more fps when I boot my MBA in Windows 7. (although I don't fault OS X for that - it's probably a developer/driver issue).

Actually its probably partly OSX's fault too, the OpenGL rendering code tends to go more for correctness over speed from what I've seen. That said, the drivers aren't exactly speed daemons.

Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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The apps will come and they will be better designed.

I do not know if anybody here has tried the Microsoft developer tools but they are more advanced than anything even Apple has.

Expression Blend for example is something Android developers need badly. I hope that with Adobe letting go of Flex that Google is going to poach a lot of their IDE team like they did with Chet Haase.

What they are missing was a more open API and a more in your face marketing attitude. Nokia will bring that to the table.

Microsoft has deep pockets and they need to be in mobile to stay relevant (even if they earn more money suing Android manufacturers). You next phone will be a Windows Phone.

Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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The apps will come and they will be better designed. I do not know if anybody here has tried the Microsoft developer tools but they are more advanced than anything even Apple has. Expression Blend for example is something Android developers need badly. I hope that with Adobe letting go of Flex that Google is going to poach a lot of their IDE team like they did with Chet Haase. What they are missing was a more open AP…

Microsoft has deep pockets and they need to be in mobile to stay relevant (even if they earn more money suing Android manufacturers).

This isn't an argument when their competition has deeper pockets...

Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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The apps will come and they will be better designed. I do not know if anybody here has tried the Microsoft developer tools but they are more advanced than anything even Apple has. Expression Blend for example is something Android developers need badly. I hope that with Adobe letting go of Flex that Google is going to poach a lot of their IDE team like they did with Chet Haase. What they are missing was a more open AP…

Microsoft has deep pockets and they need to be in mobile to stay relevant (even if they earn more money suing Android manufacturers). This isn't an argument when their competition has deeper pockets...

lol! True. I meant that they won't throw in the towel like HP did with WebOS devices. Even if the sales of the devices do not take off, they still can force manufacturers to produce Windows Phone devices, I am quite certain that the manufacturers they threatened to sue in the "Android maneuver" got a better deal if they accepted to produce Windows Phone handsets in the future. My tuppence worth.

Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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post #24

Two months ago my contract was up with AT&T, so I decided "What the hell, I'm going to purchase an iPhone(4)!". So I did. Turns out, after all the hype I was completely underwhelmed by it. It's not that it's a bad phone, it's great. It's just that the general OS feels tired to me. The interface. I ended up playing with a Samsung Focus a few days later in the same AT&T store and swapped my iPhone for it. I'm incredibl…

>It's just that the general OS feels tired to me. What does this even mean?

The OSX look is pretty old at this point. They've managed to update it in spots but much of it is dreadfully ugly. Like this:

http://admintell.napco.com/ee/images/uploads/appletell/bill-...

Note that Metro is pretty old too, it started with Windows Media Center, but has changed a lot since then.

Re: Why the Lumia 800 is the first device I would switch to from an iPhone

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... also it runs internet explorer bringing the pains of having to do non-standard web development hacks to the mobile world too. So from my very selfish perspective, I really hope, Windows Mobile will never really take off so that I don't have to really deal with Internet Explorer Mobile.

Wouldn't it be better to hope that it takes off so other better browsers are ported?

No, because most users will just use the browser that comes with the phone.

It's the same on desktop OSes: IE is the most popular browser on Windows, Safari is the most popular browser on OS X.

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