With no evidence to back me up other than the daily volume of scam calls, I feel nevertheless confident concluding my cable company sells my "land line tel number" that "saves me money" on my cable bill to list brokers who service off-shore boiler room ops. One more reason to love the cable monopolists and their K Street influence peddlers.
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#32It's absolutely insane that they are so ineffective. Major phone networks should be held responsible. I've been getting texts like crazy from spammer tries to get me to click their links. The messages are 100% identical and would be trivial to block.
What if they accidentally block an important text and get sued? It's not easy to do at scale.
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#33Do we know if reporting a call as spam in Android gets reported to the FTC? Or do we need to file it as spam and report it ourselves to the FTC?
I'm not sure I'd want it to. On multiple occasions, I've received "returned" calls from people who have received scam calls from my number. I'm sure a lot of money would be wasted on red herrings if those reported numbers end up at the FTC.
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#34It is unfortunate that the cellular companies have allowed their core product (voice calls) to be so devalued that they need to be forced to solve this problem instead of just doing it naturally. The carriers are clearly customer-hostile, as this is really a very solvable problem. Instead, we now are moving to alternate mechanisms to manage audio calls (eg: Signal, Whatsapp, Facebook, etc.). My wide-open Verizon cell…
>My wide-open Verizon cell-phone number is my least preferred method of contact by far, due to the fact that I cannot trust that unknown numbers are high-value incoming calls.
I thought it was a legal requirement for phone network operators to leave phone numbers accessible to all, and hence their inability to effectively fight spam.
Otherwise, what would stop the situation from becoming like email, where email is more likely to be delivered if sent from a big player and less likely from a small player.
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#35It is unfortunate that the cellular companies have allowed their core product (voice calls) to be so devalued that they need to be forced to solve this problem instead of just doing it naturally. The carriers are clearly customer-hostile, as this is really a very solvable problem. Instead, we now are moving to alternate mechanisms to manage audio calls (eg: Signal, Whatsapp, Facebook, etc.). My wide-open Verizon cell…
> It is unfortunate that the cellular companies have allowed their core product (voice calls) to be so devalued that they need to be forced to solve this problem instead of just doing it naturally.
And they did this while loudly complaining that they don't want to become a mere dumb pipe! That is the true twist.
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#3690% of those scam calls originate from one city in India- Kolkata. It’s a state that has had communist rule for over 30 years and now a government which also runs on anti-corporate agenda. As a result there are no industries and all jobs have dried up in that state of West Bengal. This is the only industry left and the local government and police turn a blind eye since they get kickbacks and is the only source of inc…
It's interesting that failed communist regimes often seem to be succeeded by kleptocracies. I wonder if any political scientists have studied this and can explain why.
Communism and socialism concentrate power to a single government/state entity and when it fails there is no industrial competition so the most well connected/wealthy people that are able to take control of the industry are able to pretty much run unabated without any natural market forces you'd find in a system/industry that began in a more free enviroment.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Websites have been given a practical choice between annoying popups and blocking Europe. It makes my life better when they block Europe, and I wish more did. I also wish Europe got rid of the GDPR.
There is also the the third option of course: not tracking users.
A lot of non-technical organizations deem it safer (and cheaper) to just block EU users than to study the law, become domain experts, and implement lawyer-approved mechanisms to become compliant.
The reality is, however, unless you have a major presence in the EU, or are the size of Google or Facebook... you can freely ignore the GDPR without consequence. EU laws do not apply across the ocean.
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#38This spring I was applying for jobs so I answered my phone for more unknown numbers than usual. This has lead to a huge increase in spam calls that I receive on a daily basis and Google Phone's spam filter isn't strict enough for my liking (not to mention no longer available since I'm running GrapheneOS). If you're an Android and Tasker user you can take matters into your own hands and set Tasker as your call screen…
I dunno how successful this is, but when I get spam called, I do what I can to reach a person and then say, "Put me on the do not call list, please!" and (possibly) as a result, I really don't get as many of these spam calls as it sounds like folks here are getting.
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#39It is unfortunate that the cellular companies have allowed their core product (voice calls) to be so devalued that they need to be forced to solve this problem instead of just doing it naturally. The carriers are clearly customer-hostile, as this is really a very solvable problem. Instead, we now are moving to alternate mechanisms to manage audio calls (eg: Signal, Whatsapp, Facebook, etc.). My wide-open Verizon cell…
>My wide-open Verizon cell-phone number is my least preferred method of contact by far, due to the fact that I cannot trust that unknown numbers are high-value incoming calls. I thought it was a legal requirement for phone network operators to leave phone numbers accessible to all, and hence their inability to effectively fight spam. Otherwise, what would stop the situation from becoming like email, where email is mo…
What does “accessible to all” mean in this context?
Why do I in Europe get almost zero spam calls or text while in the US it seems like a plague?
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#40It's absolutely insane that they are so ineffective. Major phone networks should be held responsible. I've been getting texts like crazy from spammer tries to get me to click their links. The messages are 100% identical and would be trivial to block.
Being held responsible means the government hands them a huge check and nothing changes.