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Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by brown9-2 »

comex wrote: post #327
runlevel1 wrote: post #300

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1) Go to the Terminal menu > Settings, click the Settings pane. 2) Select your preferred theme (left). It's probably the one listed as "default." 3) Click the Keyboard tab. 4) Click the "+" button to add a new Key to Action mapping. • Key: cursor left • Modifier: option • Action: send string to shell: • In the blank blank space: \033b Note: This is the ESC key followed by a lowecase “b“. • Click OK. 5) Click the "+"…

Or just click the "option as meta" checkbox!

Thanks. Interestingly enough in iTerm2 this option is worded as "Left/Right option key acts as +Esc" rather than "Meta"

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by dingle_thunk »

js2 wrote: post #75

Re: "maximize" button that is being complained about in this thread. It's not a maximize button, it's a zoom button, and while I don't like its behavior, it's always been this way in OS X. From the current HIG: Your application determines the initial size and position of a window, which is called the standard state. If the user changes a window’s size or location by at least 7 points, the new size and location is the…

I don't know how I lived without cinch.app

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by thatjoshguy »

DougBTX wrote: post #72
brown9-2 wrote: post #40

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I don't think the environment is as locked down as you think. Finder can access windows shares. Apple-shift-G lets you type in any path you want in Finder, and if you are at the command line you can do open to open a Finder window. Ctrl-a and Ctrl-e at the prompt move the cursor to the beginning and end of the prompt, respectively. Someone who knows readline better than me can tell you how to move between words. I co…

> Someone who knows readline better than me can tell you how to move between words. It's alt+leftArrow and alt+rightArrow. Other useful ones which work in native text boxes: cmd+leftArrow and cmd+rightArrow to move to the start and end of lines in text boxes cmd+upArrow and cmd+downArrow to move to the very top and very bottom ctrl+a and ctrl+e to move to the start and end of paragraphs shift+ any of the above to mov…

> Ctrl+backspace to delete the previous word in Windows always catches me out, since it works some of the time, but other times is just inserts a control character which I then also have to delete...

This is the single thing that prevents me from using Windows.

I dual boot with Windows on my iMac and I love the general appearance of Windows 7, much more than OS X. I feel like I can just get stuff done.

But then I try to work, and things just fail... A lack of common UI controls (Cocoa, OS X's killer feature) drives me insane when ctrl+a won't work, or a text field won't spell check for me, or I can't right click a word and get the definition of the word.

I find this is my problem with the iPhone as well. I got the iPhone 4 and 4S when they first came out as they are my best option out there, but I hate them so much. Other platforms are doing much more interesting things, such as Windows Phone 7's fresh interface, or the power of Android. However, all of these platforms lack the high level of polish and vibrant ecosystems the iPhone has.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by thatjoshguy »

vacri wrote: post #400
ugh wrote: post #307

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1440x900 screen, absolutely can’t stand maximized windows – hate them, actually.

It's still not an argument to optimise OSX for the use case of 30" monitors though.

27" iMac is pretty popular

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by josephcooney »

egypturnash wrote: post #157
DanBC wrote: post #120

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$14 USD for something which is standard in most Linux desktop environments? (And is probably standard in Windows, but I can't remember.) This is exactly what people complain about. Yes, this stuff can be done, but you need to set a bunch of options via the command line (no problem, but annoying if you have lots of stuff you want tweaked); then set a bunch of program options; then install a bunch of apps (some of whic…

Why do you turn your Mac on and off all the time? Sleep works fine. Just close the lid and stuff it in your bag, then open it up again. Yes I know it never worked on Windows. It works on a Mac.* The only reason I reboot is for an OS update or for the occasional installer that's too stupid to just launch the services it just threw into the "start this at launch" system. * well eeeevery now and then shit gets in the wa…

Sleep works fine for me on windows.

I find it amusing that instead of addressing the problem and agreeing that OSX has a small usability wart you blame the user for using a feature built into the product, and instead suggest they do something quite different, which may or may not be appropriate for their situation.

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by JWHardcastle »

MostAwesomeDude wrote: post #99
phamilton wrote: post #38

I'll continue to use the only operating system where I can both develop with unix tools and watch Netflix.

Arr, ye know there be other, better, faster, cheaper ways to be obtainin' yer movies an' TV shows, right, me hearty?

You left out legal.

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Post by reuser »

kamechan wrote: post #238
kisielk wrote: post #204

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Who cares about the justification. The major problem with it is that the behaviour is unpredictable. You have no idea what is going to happen when you push that button for a given app. In some apps, they'll go full screen. A browser might resize to fit the current web page. iTunes actually shrinks down to a mini control window. So now in order to use this button if a useful manner the user has to remember exactly wha…

i tend not to use it for this very reason. i've wished, on more than one occasion, that a user could customize this action to be a "maximize vertically", as one could in gnome2. maybe i'm one of the few who actually used this, as it seems to have been phased out in gnome3. but i found it very useful.

I do this on Gnome 3 every day! I have it bound to right-click on the titlebar

Re: Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X.

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Post by reuser »

nitrogen wrote: post #248
kamechan wrote: post #238

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i tend not to use it for this very reason. i've wished, on more than one occasion, that a user could customize this action to be a "maximize vertically", as one could in gnome2. maybe i'm one of the few who actually used this, as it seems to have been phased out in gnome3. but i found it very useful.

You're not the only one to use vertical maximization. I really liked being able to middle-click the maximize button for vertical, or right-click for horizontal. It seems that's no longer the case in Gnome-3-hacked-to-look-like-Gnome-2-in-Ubuntu-11.10. I suppose it's replaced by Windows 7-style border dragging, but that's less flexible as you can only do maximize, left half, or right half.

Gnome shell on Ubuntu is really misleading. On Fedora the support for it is first class so it works wonderfully, out of the box, including features like this.

(I like Unity too, but it needs work on things like multiple monitor support)

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Post by code_duck »

cpeterso wrote: post #384
code_duck wrote: post #145

I started using OSX every day last year, after 12 years of Linux mixed with 5% Windows. Verdict: it's nice, but I'm not blown away and I miss Linux for some things.

What do you miss from Linux that is not available on OSX? MacPorts fills in the gaps for missing GNU tools.

MacPorts, brew and fink add up to a more complex, less reliable system than a typical Linux vendors' repository. Currently my brew is broken and I can't upgrade anything until I figure out why some obscure Gnome lib isn't compiling... I have not had any sort of issue like that with Linux in the past 8 years when it comes to upgrading routiney used software.

OSX's command line utils are BSD style... so going between OSX and Linux shells, I often end up with messages such as 'ls: -l: No such file or directory' because I expected to be able to put flags anywhere in the arguments.

Even between the vaunted Mac editors such as TextMate and Coda, I haven't found a text editor I like as much as Kate.

There are various other issues I've struggled with, mainly relating to installing and upgrading open source software. Projects simply expect that you will be using Linux, and using this proprietary BSD offshoot is simply inconvenient due to it's usual *nix differences.

Also, my own preferences and habits come into play. I like KDE, Gnome, WindowMaker... being able to press ctrl-alt-Fkey and get a fullscreen terminal... Gimp integrating with the window manager properly (to the extent it does at all, sure)... knowing where my Flash LSOs are saved... and so on.

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