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TikTok’s Poison Pill

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Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

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I believe he means currently, not ever in its history.

Then why even bother having the conversation? No one is free of guilt here, which was my point.

Guilt is not a binary.

When one group is actively trying to absolve its sins of the past, and the other doesn’t even recognize them while doubling-down, the claim that “everyone has sins” an abdication of the idea that behavior matters.

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

#92
post #56

It's interesting to read this article from March [0] and then check the tiktok's coverage on the news after that. > Facebook paid GOP firm to malign TikTok > The firm, Targeted Victory, pushed local operatives across the country to boost messages calling TikTok a threat to American children. > “Dream would be to get stories with headlines like ‘From dances to danger,’ ” one campaign director said. [0] https://www.was…

Related to think t the children, I recently read a few comments from women in Romania that told that since around 12-13 years old they got on the Facebook page ads promoting those girls to work as cam girls. Facebook and their ad network should also be analyzed IMO, would make more sense to put all social media under the same standards.

Also dudes working in ad industry, tell us why should we not install ad blockers when you put this kind of ads in front of children? FB knows 100% the user account age so is it stupidity? is it "we don't care", "a innocent bug"?

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

#93
post #5

There is lots of talk going around TikTok, especially now geopolitics has been added to this kind of discussion due to ongoing tensions between two giants. Instead of banning or removing the TikTok app, how about the US government put a firm privacy policy that forbids TikTok, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, Twitter and co from collecting excessive data on users? That would be a better solution, IMHO. Let users download…

> Just make one rule for all. This is the correct solution of winning the moral high ground. What Russia has been doing for several decades (see Yuri Bezmenov [1]) is leveraging the "west's" inner discontent. Every time a Watergate or Snowden happens it's a gift to them. It exposes our 'hypocrisy', and failure to live up to our own democratic standards. That fuels the narrative of the western nations as corrupt. We'r…

You don't need a "narrative" to describe western nations as corrupt.

All you need to do is look at wealth inequality over time:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Wealth_i...

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

#94
post #63
post #30

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They could present videos of dogs that look like cats to influence your opinion to be more favorable about dogs. They could simply show addictive videos to school-aged children to reduce their time available to study or interact with other children to make them less intelligent or less socially prepared. Or, they could flood your child’s feed with videos from children their age discussing perceived mental illness sel…

> They they they I’m, aren’t parents supposed to be keeping track of their own kids, not some company? The stuff you said in the last half there is insane to me, so I’ll assume you’re either trolling or perhaps we have a very different view of certain things.

Put more broadly, control the media and you'll control people's beliefs, at least to a certain extent.

(I assume this is why US Gov has been going after TikTok -- it's the only major social site not more or less under their control.)

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

#95
post #5

There is lots of talk going around TikTok, especially now geopolitics has been added to this kind of discussion due to ongoing tensions between two giants. Instead of banning or removing the TikTok app, how about the US government put a firm privacy policy that forbids TikTok, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook, Twitter and co from collecting excessive data on users? That would be a better solution, IMHO. Let users download…

Does tiktok actually collect that much (valuable) information? It seems all the scaremongering people spread (rightfully or not) is around it's moderation and attempts to steer discourse and change opinions to pro-china?

Yes, they basically collect everything.

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

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post #18

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What is the definition of a breach? Are all vulnerabilities considered breaches? If a website finds a vulnerability in their code, fixes it, and doesn't find any evidence of attack, do they generally tell the public about that? Disclosure: I work at Google, but never on Google+.

Depends on the vulnerability. It might be prudent to disclose it so users have the freedom to, for instance, change their passwords elsewhere as most people do indeed reuse passwords. I'm not sure how this metaphor holds up under scrutiny but disclosing all vulnerabilities might be akin to considering yourself having had a break-in every time you forgot to lock the door.

From the linked article:

> unauthorized access to private users' names, emails, addresses, occupations, genders and ages.

Dislaimer: I work in Google, but don't know anything about the breach that isn't in the linked article.

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

#97
post #56

It's interesting to read this article from March [0] and then check the tiktok's coverage on the news after that. > Facebook paid GOP firm to malign TikTok > The firm, Targeted Victory, pushed local operatives across the country to boost messages calling TikTok a threat to American children. > “Dream would be to get stories with headlines like ‘From dances to danger,’ ” one campaign director said. [0] https://www.was…

> These bare-knuckle tactics, long commonplace in the world of politics, have become increasingly noticeable within a tech industry

Has WaPo every managed a similar article on Hollywood catalyzing attacks on tech? Or maybe that's the commonplace politics... Still, nice to see mention of press coverage artifice.

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

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> But the CCP is not our government, But there are Chinese dissidents and Tibet independentists in your country which are at risk, so it's OK if China spies on those because "they are not your government"? https://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/13/opinions/j-michael-cole-o...

I don't think they are at risk while they remain here in my country. It's very unlikely that the Chinese government decides on a strike against any dissident here. That's more typical of the US like they did yesterday in Afghanistan.

The US also kidnapped people in Europe to send them to torture camps in the middel east. The US military was also caught buying location data from muslim prayer apps, we can guess how that data was used.

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

#99
post #79

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I believe he means currently, not ever in its history.

Then why even bother having the conversation? No one is free of guilt here, which was my point.

Because you can't resurrect people who died hundreds of years ago but you can potentially stop a genocide that's ongoing.

Re: TikTok’s Poison Pill

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> Just make one rule for all. This is the correct solution of winning the moral high ground. What Russia has been doing for several decades (see Yuri Bezmenov [1]) is leveraging the "west's" inner discontent. Every time a Watergate or Snowden happens it's a gift to them. It exposes our 'hypocrisy', and failure to live up to our own democratic standards. That fuels the narrative of the western nations as corrupt. We'r…

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>Nestle Pure Life?

According to google "Nestlé Pure Life is a brand of bottled water". What's so morally bankrupt about selling bottled water?

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