Live data from Hacker News

Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

themanual.com

11–20 of 272 posts

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#11
post #6

The mobile experience is so incredibly bad. Tried to add a markup to the site, brutal time trying to navigate it. Moved to a different tab and lost all my input. Image upload is capped at 5mb; which is under the average size my s10e takes by default. Great concept, garbage execution.

Thanks for the feedback. It is greatly appreciated! We are certainly after UI and UX experiences!

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#12
post #6

The mobile experience is so incredibly bad. Tried to add a markup to the site, brutal time trying to navigate it. Moved to a different tab and lost all my input. Image upload is capped at 5mb; which is under the average size my s10e takes by default. Great concept, garbage execution.

Is it really necessary for every website to work perfectly on a pocket sized screen? Some ideas just work better on a big screen, mouse and keyboard. We shouldn't limit ourselves just to make everything work on an iPhone.

The initial execution was to mimic an excel spreadsheet but as we get more feedback we hope to really produce a better UI and UX.

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#13
post #6

The mobile experience is so incredibly bad. Tried to add a markup to the site, brutal time trying to navigate it. Moved to a different tab and lost all my input. Image upload is capped at 5mb; which is under the average size my s10e takes by default. Great concept, garbage execution.

Is it really necessary for every website to work perfectly on a pocket sized screen? Some ideas just work better on a big screen, mouse and keyboard. We shouldn't limit ourselves just to make everything work on an iPhone.

As I stated; S10e. Not iPhone. It looks like you just reacted rather than reading, but to answer the question in earnest: no, we don't have to make sites work perfectly on every device.

That doesn't preclude criticism, however. Might want to check out current stats for mobile browsing. I've been in web development for 20 years and the numbers continue to go up. So again; no, but you're excluding a lot of traffic, and users. And for a site relying on crowdsourced data, that seems like a poor choice.

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#14

As if car buyers are any different. They would not take anything less than the highest offer for selling their used car, just like the dealerships. Is a dealership wanting to sell for the highest price any different than a labor seller wanting to sell for the highest salary?

The site isn't meant to "get one over" on dealerships. It's merely a tool riding on the back of capitalism and free speech to reward the lowest priced dealers, pull back the veil of sneaky bait and switch pricing models and attempt to force more competition across the industry.

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#15
post #11
post #6

The mobile experience is so incredibly bad. Tried to add a markup to the site, brutal time trying to navigate it. Moved to a different tab and lost all my input. Image upload is capped at 5mb; which is under the average size my s10e takes by default. Great concept, garbage execution.

Thanks for the feedback. It is greatly appreciated! We are certainly after UI and UX experiences!

Great to hear. When I sit down in front of my laptop tomorrow, I'll try again.

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#16

As if car buyers are any different. They would not take anything less than the highest offer for selling their used car, just like the dealerships. Is a dealership wanting to sell for the highest price any different than a labor seller wanting to sell for the highest salary?

There's very little difference between a dealership, and a scalper. Both capture all the items in the market, then work together to inflate the value, artificially. The difference is that many places have laws preventing scalpers, and many places have laws requiring that you buy a car through a dealerships.

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#17
post #4

$150,000 for an F-150? https://sunrise-ford.com/inventory/new-2022-ford-f-150-light...

It’s not just because it’s electric. In rural areas like where I grew up I’ve heard these type of high-end models, like the ones with the “King Ranch” or “Platinum” packages referred to as “Cowboy Cadillacs”. Granted, $150K sounds really high, but even before the pandemic I recall hearing about non-electric $80-$100K trucks.

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#19
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is it really necessary for every website to work perfectly on a pocket sized screen? Some ideas just work better on a big screen, mouse and keyboard. We shouldn't limit ourselves just to make everything work on an iPhone.

As I stated; S10e. Not iPhone. It looks like you just reacted rather than reading, but to answer the question in earnest: no, we don't have to make sites work perfectly on every device. That doesn't preclude criticism, however. Might want to check out current stats for mobile browsing. I've been in web development for 20 years and the numbers continue to go up. So again; no, but you're excluding a lot of traffic, and…

Crowd sourcing the data is the only way to uncover the real pricing that happens behind the scenes 3 hours into a dealership trip to buy that new car once you finally sit down at the finance guys office. It happened to me and it's happening in crazy high numbers of interactions. The prices listed online or initially viewed then get bludgeoned by "the mandatory addon and adm" bat once you burned half a day at the dealership and finally sit down to "talk numbers". Utilizing OEM MSRP or posted pricing data I feel paints a more flawed picture!

Re: Nonprofit markups.org is exposing the most egregious new car prices

#20
carmax has been doing this with teslas. visited a carmax lot and saw around 10 model 3s, identical specs, with less than 50 miles (the 1k miles is the lowest the site will show) and selling them for 10k markup. they’re literally scalping teslas now, not to mention the rest of their overpriced inventory.

https://www.carmax.com/cars/preview/23029935

Post reply on HN