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Review of 17α-ethynylestradiol in water across 32 countries: Estrogenic effects

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Re: Review of 17α-ethynylestradiol in water across 32 countries: Estrogenic effects

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Post by JPLeRouzic »

istorical wrote: post #141
mancerayder wrote: post #126

Am I the only lunatic that drinks almost exclusively bottled water? I've done so since I was a child.

Doing so seems incredibly wasteful and pollution-generating. A filter pitcher like a Brita + a reusable water aluminum/glass/steel/whatever water bottle seems like it'd be a better substitute.

Doesn't it add (chemical) salts in water to remove impurities such as calcium? [0] Can't those salts create hypertension [1] ?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion-exchange_resin#Water_purif...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypertension

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Post by panarky »

pkphilip wrote: post #158
panarky wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> not a "right wing fear", but a scientific fact Of course it's both, with the kernel of scientific fact being hyped and exaggerated by the right. It's important to call this out so people can evaluate whether the discussion is in good faith or if it's part of an information operation.

It is not a myth. There are serious concerns about the drop of testosterone levels in men - as much as 25% from the 1980s. https://www.urologytimes.com/view/testosterone-levels-show-s... Also, sperm count in men has dropped around 59% from the 1970s and so infertility among men is at an all time high: https://nypost.com/2021/02/20/why-more-men-are-suffering-fro...

Who said it's a myth? Who are you arguing with?

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Post by pkphilip »

panarky wrote: post #162
pkphilip wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not a myth. There are serious concerns about the drop of testosterone levels in men - as much as 25% from the 1980s. https://www.urologytimes.com/view/testosterone-levels-show-s... Also, sperm count in men has dropped around 59% from the 1970s and so infertility among men is at an all time high: https://nypost.com/2021/02/20/why-more-men-are-suffering-fro...

Who said it's a myth? Who are you arguing with?

Touche

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Post by tzekid »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #72
aaron695 wrote: post #12

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As ridiculous as it is, this one is very likely true. For a thorough review, see ”Gay Frogs: A Deep Dive” by Oki’s Weird Stories: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5uSbp0YDhc

Why was the parent comment banned? People don't wanna tip the "Alex Jones was right" jar, or something?

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Post by zackmorris »

Zacru wrote: post #160
zackmorris wrote: post #102

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Also it's not just endocrine disruption. Forever chemicals and microplastics can lodge in muscle and cause accumulated damage as the body tries to encapsulate it to keep from getting injured. And the circulatory system where it can clog arteries/veins/capillaries and cut off circulation. The images in this paper show plastic fibers embedded in fish muscle: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004896971.…

>We eat a credit card's worth of microplastic every week No, we don't. Here is a 4 minute video explaining how this bit of misinformation came to be spread across the internet. https://youtu.be/2Ntp6BqhSng

Thanks for that, I hadn't seen it, so I'll stop ranting about eating plastic until I see new evidence. Also I'm a big fan of Hank Green, but his proof is still just one data point in a mountain of evidence to the contrary. I feel that microplastics are a symptom of deregulation and lack of enforcement of existing laws, mostly due to the factory farming lobby:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPbF45-ZB5M

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Post by zackmorris »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #146
zackmorris wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also it's not just endocrine disruption. Forever chemicals and microplastics can lodge in muscle and cause accumulated damage as the body tries to encapsulate it to keep from getting injured. And the circulatory system where it can clog arteries/veins/capillaries and cut off circulation. The images in this paper show plastic fibers embedded in fish muscle: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S004896971.…

> We eat a credit card's worth of microplastic every week, mostly coming from our water supply apparently There ia a lot written about this online but they always skim over the detail of how humans actually ingest this. Do you have any source that explains that the source is mostly via our water supply?

Shoot I can't remember where I read that offhand. I did find this paper:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6449537/

In figure 1, untreated tap water ranked higher than bottled water in plastic particle count per unit volume. They conclude that standardization of micro plastic analysis and more studies are needed.

It's said that we should never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity, but, the plastics lobby has so much power that suggesting they had nothing to do with our ignorance of this issue is.. laughable at best.

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