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Re: Oracle Suspended My Account

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I have no clues beyond what's in the article, but I suspect that a combination of being from Turkey (author spells it that way) and being on the free tier triggered some sort of auto-script that attempts to detect crypto-mining or something. Attempting to use a VPN to distract from the access from Turkey would probably also trigger some other auto-detector. Free tiers give free tears; they're always fraught with dang…

Why would being from Turkey have an effect in this situation?

Re: Oracle Suspended My Account

#12

There is a pattern in technology companies and user reports of them: * User does thing that appears to be fine. * User is banned * User has no way of fixing this, ask for redress, they are just cut out now. I think this pattern is something that should be held in contempt and is eventually thrown away. If I had to guess, though, it won't be.

Don't forget step 4 and 5:

* User posts on HN (or reddit or someplace else)

* If post gets attention, issue is resolved via manual, backchannel efforts. If post doesn't get attention, issue remains unresolved.

Re: Oracle Suspended My Account

#14
post #6

I have no clues beyond what's in the article, but I suspect that a combination of being from Turkey (author spells it that way) and being on the free tier triggered some sort of auto-script that attempts to detect crypto-mining or something. Attempting to use a VPN to distract from the access from Turkey would probably also trigger some other auto-detector. Free tiers give free tears; they're always fraught with dang…

> being from Turkey [...] and being on the free tier

I mean, I don't want to put words in your mouth, I assume this wasn't the tone you were aiming for, but this sounds a little like you think that's okay. Which, to be clear, it absolutely isn't.

Re: Oracle Suspended My Account

#16
At this point, if you trust companies with terrible, terrible track record and you get bitten, what do you expect us to say?

People keep repeating "vote with your wallet", and almost nobody does. It's already hard to make peace with that, but we learned to.

However if most of the IT community place billboards saying "don't go into the bear cage" for years, and you still do, what can we do?

Re: Oracle Suspended My Account

#17
post #12

There is a pattern in technology companies and user reports of them: * User does thing that appears to be fine. * User is banned * User has no way of fixing this, ask for redress, they are just cut out now. I think this pattern is something that should be held in contempt and is eventually thrown away. If I had to guess, though, it won't be.

Don't forget step 4 and 5: * User posts on HN (or reddit or someplace else) * If post gets attention, issue is resolved via manual, backchannel efforts. If post doesn't get attention, issue remains unresolved.

I always forget step 4 and 5 - the most important steps as its the only thing that helps the user.

Re: Oracle Suspended My Account

#18
post #6

I have no clues beyond what's in the article, but I suspect that a combination of being from Turkey (author spells it that way) and being on the free tier triggered some sort of auto-script that attempts to detect crypto-mining or something. Attempting to use a VPN to distract from the access from Turkey would probably also trigger some other auto-detector. Free tiers give free tears; they're always fraught with dang…

Why would being from Turkey have an effect in this situation?

For the exact same reason being from Russia would. Hostile, unpredictable, militaristic country, ran by a wanna-be dictator, committed to an active invasion of another country's sovereign territory.

(My point is those two tend to go hand and hand: higher percentage of unwanted traffic originates from authoritarian lands still engaging in 19th century style barbarism.)

Re: Oracle Suspended My Account

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post #13

Oracle sales has been all over us for many months to try and move over to their cloud offering but all I ever hear are stories like this. Pass.

Oracle offers worse products than open source and gives you that privilege you pay for and can never use fully.

I'm bitter about their KB documentation being paywalled. Their community ecosystem is nightmare fuel. Burleson Consulting is right until they are deprecated or were wrong to begin with -- but at least it is accessible. AskTom is retired.

And for the past several years their attempts at "us too!" cloud offerings look like the slow recognition that its best days are far behind it.

Hard pass with all the invective thoughts I can muster.

Re: Oracle Suspended My Account

#20
post #10

It's always the same: you get what you pay for. No company offers something for free: If it doesn't cost anything, you're the product: They will use usage-data to optimize their commercial offerings, they will try out features in non-critical (aka: free) accounts first - so not to offend the paying customers. In some cases (e.g. free web-mailers like gmx, Instagram, FB etc) the free versions are mainly vehicles for a…

> I cannot see their motivation to offer anything for free.

Oracle is not alone. AWS/Google Cloud also have free tiers. They want you to get to know the system and might grow out of the free tier. But Oracle's offer is significantly more generous than Amazon's or Google's.

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