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What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by kyrra »

s1k3s wrote: post #87

Their data is based on a survey. According to LinkedIn, the following number of jobs per company have been created in the past week: Google 7k+ Apple 2k+ Amazon 39k+ Meta 2k+ If anyone has that premium feature (I don't have it anymore), you can check how the numbers changed over time.

Googler opinions are my own.

I don't understand how they could have Google's true job posting numbers. Many of our postings are for general SWE roles, and that posting could hide any number of actual openings.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by gommm »

Nextgrid wrote: post #80
badpun wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, native Polish. Never really lived outside of Poland.

If you don't mind me asking, what's your legal setup and way of landing US contracts? Most I've seen require a US-based legal entity (which is the tricky bit I can't figure out, as to the best of my knowledge there's no way to set one up without having existing ties/citizenship in the US).

I've contracted remotely for 10 years with US companies while living in different countries. I've never had a US based legal entity and it hasn't been a problem. It does make things slightly more complicated for them though and I'm sure that I lost some potential contracts due to this. In some cases (HK company while living in Asia), not having a US legal entity is a huge plus tax-wise.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by gwnywg »

Nextgrid wrote: post #80
badpun wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, native Polish. Never really lived outside of Poland.

If you don't mind me asking, what's your legal setup and way of landing US contracts? Most I've seen require a US-based legal entity (which is the tricky bit I can't figure out, as to the best of my knowledge there's no way to set one up without having existing ties/citizenship in the US).

To my knowledge you pay for invoices, you are not actually hiring. It's quite similar to buying other goods from abroad (like cheese, or printer ink). There are plenty US companies 'hiring' in Poland, where in reality they don't really hire- they come to agreement to buy your time with no tights.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by codereviewed »

jstx1 wrote: post #64
fareesh wrote: post #58

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Nobody has updated the definition of recession, in the US this has always been determined by a comission - https://www.npr.org/2022/06/24/1107581150/recession-referees

You are 100% correct.

The confusion in the public stems from the fact that the news media selectively reports on recession in different ways depending on which party is in power. They ignore your fact when one party is in power and they highlight the "2 quarters of no growth" rule of thumb instead. Then when their guy is in power they go out of their way to say "Akshually a recession isn't defined by that it is defined by a committee."

Just a few examples: https://imgur.com/a/xbBzLIU

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by bsaul »

Olreich wrote: post #82
firstSpeaker wrote: post #15

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I wonder what is going on with Amazon. They seem to be going strong with hiring.

Estimates put the workforce for AWS at ~100k-200k right now. AWS income is ~80b right now according to their Q2 earnings release. Based on these numbers, a person working for AWS is making Amazon ~$400k in revenue. The profit for AWS at the moment is 30% according to the Q2 filings and nets out to ~$24b. So, assuming 200k employees for AWS which is very software-developer heavy says they are making at least $120k per…

those numbers are scary for anyone ever thinking about competing with amazon... I'm really stupefied by the way this company is operating..

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by [deleted] »

kyrra wrote: post #91
s1k3s wrote: post #87

Their data is based on a survey. According to LinkedIn, the following number of jobs per company have been created in the past week: Google 7k+ Apple 2k+ Amazon 39k+ Meta 2k+ If anyone has that premium feature (I don't have it anymore), you can check how the numbers changed over time.

Googler opinions are my own. I don't understand how they could have Google's true job posting numbers. Many of our postings are for general SWE roles, and that posting could hide any number of actual openings.

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Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by gwnywg »

woadwarrior01 wrote: post #43
__exit__ wrote: post #33

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When you say the compensation was very close to the current market rate, I assume you mean the market rate in Poland, correct? No fancy Silicon Valley salaries for devs in Poland, that is.

I left G in Ireland about 4 months ago for a fully remote position at a startup. Up until then, G's Polish salaries were low even by Western European standards (which is ~ >= 1/2 of SV pay).

In my opinion this makes sense, what would be the incentive to hire there if wages were the same?

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by HighlandSpring »

cromka wrote: post #50
yardstick wrote: post #37

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Polish salaries are maybe not SV high but they are climbing. $100k USD/year plus for a contract engineer. Not cheap.

Did you calculate in the weak Zloty into that sum?

If PLN depreciates against USD (as it has this year) and the contract is USD denominated (which is simpler for Google so likely the case) then you'll have actually received a gradual payrise!

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by bena »

kleinsch wrote: post #75

Google has always recruited and interviewed independently of whether they actually have roles open that make sense for you. Earlier this year, I passed the interview and spent six weeks in "team match" before I gave up and took a role with another company. Had a friend who did the same for months for a PM role. Just bc you're getting contacted by Google recruiters this week or interviewing doesn't mean you'll ever fi…

It kind of makes sense to keep people in the pipeline as it were. If you shut down the whole apparatus, you have to spin it back up when hiring is unfrozen. But if you keep the machine running, you're ready to hire the instant you can.

For them that is. Sucks for you and me.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by badpun »

Nextgrid wrote: post #80
badpun wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope, native Polish. Never really lived outside of Poland.

If you don't mind me asking, what's your legal setup and way of landing US contracts? Most I've seen require a US-based legal entity (which is the tricky bit I can't figure out, as to the best of my knowledge there's no way to set one up without having existing ties/citizenship in the US).

I just have a company in Poland, sign a contract with US company and send them invoices every month (which, to my knowledge, they don't really always even need?). I don't know how it's set up on their end. No one yet has asked for a US-based entity.

As to finding them, I've found some here on HN in Who's Hiring thread. One of them (I'm a notorious job hopper, so there were many) found me on LinkedIn.

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