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A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Amazing: you've used a thread about one of the freest, least commercial eras of the web to plug some cryptocurrency/web3 bullshit and admit you took over one of the most memorable trademarks of that era to do it.

What is bullshit about decentralized hosting with IPFS?

The ephemerality was a feature we didn't understand was a feature back then. Not everyone dreams of a perfect distributed record of everything the way crypto people do.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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It’s become the norm for big tech to acquire and kill off beloved products over the objections of passionate communities of users. For me that first experience was Yahoo acquiring and killing GeoCities, not to mention deleting 10’s of millions of websites from the early web in the process like it never existed paving the way for social media. I’ve spent the better part of a decade waiting, and in 2020 Yahoo’s tradema…

Amazing: you've used a thread about one of the freest, least commercial eras of the web to plug some cryptocurrency/web3 bullshit and admit you took over one of the most memorable trademarks of that era to do it.

Free? You must have missed the part of the era where big tech purchased geocities for >$3B and killed it over the objections of users & deleted it from the Internet save for efforts of some like the Internet Archive (I hope you donate to them).

Also must have missed the part about giving the IP to a community to govern.

You did manage to confirm the unusual disdain of all things decentralized in web3.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Same here, Myspace (and my dad’s Macromedia Dreamweaver book) was my entry to code. Oh how I miss it! I started working on a social network that’s basically that era of Myspace but got sidetracked by other projects. I’ll probably get back to it around the holidays.

It still exists, a young developer has recreated myspace (you can edit html & css on your profile!!1!): https://spacehey.com/ Here's a list of cool profiles to look into (may contain dead links): https://blog.spacehey.com/entry?id=1185

If someone would do that but for 2005-2010 Bebo, now we'd be flying.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Also, 9/11, and war on terror started (and never ended I guess, terror is still around)

"Oh yeah, we drone-striked that wedding party, but trust us, these guys were horrid!"

Yessir! Nothing wins you respect and admiration among the "liberated" population faster than extra-judicial killings!

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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What is bullshit about decentralized hosting with IPFS?

The ephemerality was a feature we didn't understand was a feature back then. Not everyone dreams of a perfect distributed record of everything the way crypto people do.

If you think self expression through building websites was ephemeral for dominant social media sandboxes, that is great, but not everyone feels that way. Sort of as evidenced by this post on the front page of HN more than a decade after GeoCities was killed off by big tech.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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post #65

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Amazing: you've used a thread about one of the freest, least commercial eras of the web to plug some cryptocurrency/web3 bullshit and admit you took over one of the most memorable trademarks of that era to do it.

Free? You must have missed the part of the era where big tech purchased geocities for >$3B and killed it over the objections of users & deleted it from the Internet save for efforts of some like the Internet Archive (I hope you donate to them). Also must have missed the part about giving the IP to a community to govern. You did manage to confirm the unusual disdain of all things decentralized in web3.

> of the era where big tech purchased geocities for >$3B and killed it

Pretty obvious that commenter was referring to before that happened.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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It’s become the norm for big tech to acquire and kill off beloved products over the objections of passionate communities of users. For me that first experience was Yahoo acquiring and killing GeoCities, not to mention deleting 10’s of millions of websites from the early web in the process like it never existed paving the way for social media. I’ve spent the better part of a decade waiting, and in 2020 Yahoo’s tradema…

What a shame that you're taking something beloved and nostalgic and turning it into yet another rent-seeking crypto project. https://neocities.org/ has been around for years, is the same exact concept and doesn't come with any crypto-related baggage.

I feel the same way. The hairpin of emotions from excitement when I saw something promising like acquiring the expiring geocities trademark from the USPTO to yet another shit crypto project was disheartening. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. Perhaps something can do something of value with it when the new trademark expires.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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What a shame that you're taking something beloved and nostalgic and turning it into yet another rent-seeking crypto project. https://neocities.org/ has been around for years, is the same exact concept and doesn't come with any crypto-related baggage.

I feel the same way. The hairpin of emotions from excitement when I saw something promising like acquiring the expiring geocities trademark from the USPTO to yet another shit crypto project was disheartening. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. Perhaps something can do something of value with it when the new trademark expires.

>Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. Perhaps something can do something of value with it when the new trademark expires.

Please expand upon this, give me your idea of victory and value.

The plan was to turn the IP over to community governance, so people like you who seem to care could have a voice in governing how the property is used. On one hand it seems like you might want a voice in how the IP is used, yet you also seem to think that giving community governance over the GeoCities IP is "another shit crypto project." It is far easier just to privately own and operate the property as a centralized entity & remove the decentralized governance component.

Has there been another crypto project that resurrected abandoned IP and turned it over to community governance? I'd love to review those other projects and see where they went wrong.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Free? You must have missed the part of the era where big tech purchased geocities for >$3B and killed it over the objections of users & deleted it from the Internet save for efforts of some like the Internet Archive (I hope you donate to them). Also must have missed the part about giving the IP to a community to govern. You did manage to confirm the unusual disdain of all things decentralized in web3.

> of the era where big tech purchased geocities for >$3B and killed it Pretty obvious that commenter was referring to before that happened.

Everything is free until it isn't.
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