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What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by Tade0 »

__exit__ wrote: post #33
Tade0 wrote: post #28

Freeze? Both me and my friend from a previous project were recently approached by G's recruiters in Poland. I wasn't pursuing new roles at the time, but my friend figured he'd try and found that the recruiter's calendar was filled up to the brim. He asked what's going on and she replied that she has KPI to fulfill and this is the result. He followed up with a question about compensation and got a number which was...…

When you say the compensation was very close to the current market rate, I assume you mean the market rate in Poland, correct? No fancy Silicon Valley salaries for devs in Poland, that is.

Yes, the local market rate.

Your bog-standard senior role clocks in at $65k, but that's something you can get around here without going through many hoops. From a company with such an infamously convoluted hiring process I would expect no less than $90k - apparently that's not the case here.

Fancy Silicon Valley salaries are naturally out of the question. Highest number to date in my social circle was $150k/yr - a brief, beautiful moment for one senior front-end developer working remotely as a contractor.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by oblio »

Tade0 wrote: post #44
yardstick wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Polish salaries are maybe not SV high but they are climbing. $100k USD/year plus for a contract engineer. Not cheap.

The number my friend got was considerably less than that. Very concerning. Of course this is all hearsay. I don't know how real that figure is, but it's not particularly inspiring so I don't see why would anyone lie about it.

The comment above mentions a contract engineer, so a consultant, presumably. Maybe the salaries are lower for regular employees.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by ricardobayes »

user_named wrote: post #41

Does anybody know what's going on with Walmart Global Tech? A couple of weeks ago I was told I got great feedback and was moving on to the final step which was a call with a VP. Then silence for two or three weeks and no response when I email. Will they come back?

Sometimes yes, it's the summer and people go on long vacations.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by Tade0 »

nixass wrote: post #35
Tade0 wrote: post #28

Freeze? Both me and my friend from a previous project were recently approached by G's recruiters in Poland. I wasn't pursuing new roles at the time, but my friend figured he'd try and found that the recruiter's calendar was filled up to the brim. He asked what's going on and she replied that she has KPI to fulfill and this is the result. He followed up with a question about compensation and got a number which was...…

I was approached by both companies in Germany recently too, freeze doesn't mean full stop, just tightening it.

One detail I haven't mentioned is that remote roles were also on the table. I don't know how remote, but it's telling that Google is ready to make such concessions.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by macintux »

tjpnz wrote: post #42
solardev wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any evidence these are connected?

Things got bad enough to warrant guidelines around the discussion of politics and non-work related matters on internal lists.

The U.S. has been suffering from incredibly divisive politics for the last several years. It's not exactly shocking that a company would lock down internal discussion forums.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by ryanmercer »

ripper1138 wrote: post #9
TrackerFF wrote: post #5

Didn’t Sundar just recently demand increased productivity? Sounds like he’s setting the stage for layoffs.

Inevitable. Working 2 hours a day while getting paid 300K+ is unsustainable. Most of the Googlers I know have been spending 20% of their time on Google and 80% on side projects for the past year now.

>Inevitable. Working 2 hours a day while getting paid 300K+ is unsustainable

Right? And some people are holding multiple full-time jobs doing that sort of "work" glares at /r/overemployed

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by mathattack »

Tade0 wrote: post #28

Freeze? Both me and my friend from a previous project were recently approached by G's recruiters in Poland. I wasn't pursuing new roles at the time, but my friend figured he'd try and found that the recruiter's calendar was filled up to the brim. He asked what's going on and she replied that she has KPI to fulfill and this is the result. He followed up with a question about compensation and got a number which was...…

Interviews are very different than hiring. They still cost the company money but not as much as headcount. Some companies still interview when they figure out the long term strategy. This is consistent with the article describing Google’s behavior.

When companies lay off recruiters you know the cuts are longer term.

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by baq »

cromka wrote: post #50
yardstick wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Polish salaries are maybe not SV high but they are climbing. $100k USD/year plus for a contract engineer. Not cheap.

Did you calculate in the weak Zloty into that sum?

remote contractor == likely paid in USD

Re: What’s going on with Google and Facebook hiring freezes?

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Post by badpun »

Tade0 wrote: post #51
__exit__ wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you say the compensation was very close to the current market rate, I assume you mean the market rate in Poland, correct? No fancy Silicon Valley salaries for devs in Poland, that is.

Yes, the local market rate. Your bog-standard senior role clocks in at $65k, but that's something you can get around here without going through many hoops. From a company with such an infamously convoluted hiring process I would expect no less than $90k - apparently that's not the case here. Fancy Silicon Valley salaries are naturally out of the question. Highest number to date in my social circle was $150k/yr - a br…

I'm contracting remotely out of Poland and $150k-$170k is definitely doable, especially if you're willing to work for an US company (and adjust to their timezone a bit).
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