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Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

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Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

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post #4

I'm reminded of Gene Kan, but I am unsure if the circumstances are similar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Kan The similarities are that there was considerable press coverage of Diaspora and that they seemed, at least to me, destined to fail mostly just because it was a hard thing to do given their structure. It is a true shame that this individual took the failure personally as it wasn't at all his fault, again i…

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Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

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post #12
post #9

What purpose do stories like this serve? People consider asking for details to be rude. Other than tabloid style storytelling drama, why else should strangers care? This man died young, but so did the local 19 year old young woman killed just after midnight by a driver just after she rescued an injured dog from the road. You can already see someone saying the cause of death does not matter, but why does this death an…

He was actively engaged in trying to spur change in the tech community which makes it something that can become newsworthy, especially when you consider the lost potential.

Indeed. It's exactly because of the work that he was doing that his passing is a meaningful thing to find its way to HN. Honestly, even if he wasn't doing any of that work, I'm of the mind that most people have a story in their lives and most are worth hearing, even if painful.

In any case, I just donated to the project: https://www.diasporafoundation.org/donate – maybe something good can come from something so sad.

Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

#23
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no point to speculating. If they don't want to say just leave it at that.

it's basic human nature to speculate that's why the news of Michael Jackson's death caused Twitter and even Google to crash

it's basic human nature to speculate

Maybe, but it remains a choice whether or not to say something.

Conventional manners tend to lean toward "not" in this context.

Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no point to speculating. If they don't want to say just leave it at that.

it's basic human nature to speculate that's why the news of Michael Jackson's death caused Twitter and even Google to crash

I think we like to hold ourselves to a higher level of discussion here than your average tabloid.

Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

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The founders of Diaspora were in a really unenviable position. They started off with a wave of national press as well as solid financial support from grassroot users. As time went on, it became increasingly clear that they would not be able to accomplish the goal they originally set out to do. They had failed. Publicly. This can be very devastating psychologically to someone who has always 'succeeded' in life.

I'm not saying this was the case for Ilya, or had any part in his death, but I know for me it would have been hard to swallow. There are many silent founders out there that gave up everything for an unrealized dream in the path to startup success and it has a real toll on psyches.

Best wishes to his family & friends.

EDIT: This appears to be a very controversial comment. The vote count seems to be oscillating up and down very rapidly. I don't want to make this out to be a discussion about Diaspora, so I won't comment further on that point. But the mental health of founders is a real issue and rarely discussed. Maybe there should be a more open discussion about this issue.

Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

#26
post #9

What purpose do stories like this serve? People consider asking for details to be rude. Other than tabloid style storytelling drama, why else should strangers care? This man died young, but so did the local 19 year old young woman killed just after midnight by a driver just after she rescued an injured dog from the road. You can already see someone saying the cause of death does not matter, but why does this death an…

No, you must not respond; you are not obliged to make any comment on his death. In fact, it would be nice if you specifically refrained from making a comment arguing about whether his death was important in the middle of a thread where everyone else is offering their condolences; including, I would assume, some people who knew him personally. This is a matter of being human.

Respectfully, it's also about logistics. If we started posting deaths of everyone involved in startups or 'tech', that's all HN would be full of.

Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

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There are rumors that his death was self-inflicted, which is quite sad. Every time we see a young smart kid die like this, it should remind us to remember others as we go through our lives. Too often we ignore other peoples feelings, and then something like this happens. Take a moment to talk to the people you love to make sure something like this doesn't happen to them.

(If it turns out this is inaccurate, please excuse the speculation, but I still think this is important.)

Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

#28
post #4

I'm reminded of Gene Kan, but I am unsure if the circumstances are similar: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gene_Kan The similarities are that there was considerable press coverage of Diaspora and that they seemed, at least to me, destined to fail mostly just because it was a hard thing to do given their structure. It is a true shame that this individual took the failure personally as it wasn't at all his fault, again i…

Tweets from ~12 hours ago suggest that the circumstances are indeed similar.

https://twitter.com/#!/search/zhitomirskiyi

Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

#29
post #9

What purpose do stories like this serve? People consider asking for details to be rude. Other than tabloid style storytelling drama, why else should strangers care? This man died young, but so did the local 19 year old young woman killed just after midnight by a driver just after she rescued an injured dog from the road. You can already see someone saying the cause of death does not matter, but why does this death an…

No, you must not respond; you are not obliged to make any comment on his death. In fact, it would be nice if you specifically refrained from making a comment arguing about whether his death was important in the middle of a thread where everyone else is offering their condolences; including, I would assume, some people who knew him personally. This is a matter of being human.

>In fact, it would be nice if you specifically refrained from making a comment arguing about whether his death was important in the middle of a thread where everyone else is offering their condolences

You just highlighted exactly what I tried to write about! Why have a thread full of condolences from strangers directed at strangers and shun any actual discussion?

Most people clicked the story to find out the cause of death. If this young man indeed killed himself, we could have a reasonable discussion about the stresses of life and specifically related to tech, but we can't.

Instead, I strongly believe that most (if not all) condolences posted here come from people fulfilling a social expectation rather than a specific feeling towards this person.

I would hope those who knew this person and know his surviving friends and family have a more direct line of communication than comments on news.yc.

Re: Diaspora Co-Founder Ilya Zhitomirskiy Passes Away At 21

#30
post #10

what a senseless death

There is no point to speculating. If they don't want to say just leave it at that.

As long as someone close to the deceased has chosen not to share the matter, we should respect their decision.

It's the case where no close family/friends have expressed such a decision that concern should be raised... and it's hard to determine without good reportage.

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