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A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Ah I long for the days when you could just use a few frames and throw an image map together for graphical navigation...

Oh, the shame - but I will out myself.

In the aftermath of the Barings bank collapse in 1995, and its purchase for £1 by ING, its private equity arm (Baring Private Equity Partners) - which was neither directly connected with the bank's activities, nor affected by them - wanted to ringfence itself from ING influence. It decided to commission a website and, I am still not sure how, I was asked to pitch for the job. I built a demo site, put it on a floppy and visited the BPEP offices to show the men in suits.

I built the site in BBEdit Lite in three or four days. As was the fashion at the time, my brief was "We want a website" and nothing more; no purpose was imagined and, other than when I asked for locations/addresses etc, no content was provided - not even for the legal notice, although this was signed-off on by their lawyers.

The site (made to be displayed 640 x 480, natch) used every sin in the canon: multiple nested frames for top menu and left-hand navigation; and, yes, it had an image map. The plan, for my part at least, was to use this as a placeholder and then move to something less embarrassing. That never happened, and I was paid to maintain my Frankenframed monster for more than a year before ING finally asserted themselves.

I've just unearthed a broken fragment from the Wayback machine [1], if anyone has the stomach to look at it. For best (!) results, follow this route map:

- The link should punt you to an obligatory legal warning page (and yes, this did necessitate duplicating the entire frame-based navigation - don't ask).

- When it loads, click on "worldwide" in the top menu. [Edit to add: the hotspots on the image map now take a while to react when you hover over them.]

- When what remains of that loads, click on the topmost orange triangle in the left-hand nav bar. That should give you an idea of how deep the rabbit hole went.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20000303162503/http://www.bpep.c...

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

#32
So much nostalgia in those gifs. I built my first website on Geocities in 1997. It was devoted to all the PC games my middle school self loved to play. I have fond memories of "visiting my neighbors" by checking out the addresses next to mine. e.g. geocities.com/TimesSquare/1000, geocities.com/TimesSquare/1001, etc. It was always fun to see a Guestbook entry from one of the people with sites next to mine.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

#33

Ah I long for the days when you could just use a few frames and throw an image map together for graphical navigation...

Oh, the shame - but I will out myself. In the aftermath of the Barings bank collapse in 1995, and its purchase for £1 by ING, its private equity arm (Baring Private Equity Partners) - which was neither directly connected with the bank's activities, nor affected by them - wanted to ringfence itself from ING influence. It decided to commission a website and, I am still not sure how, I was asked to pitch for the job. I…

I had a look. Wasn't as bad as I expected based on what you'd said. In fact, for a 90s corporate website it looks fine. Nice job winning the pitch!

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Good medicine! I hope there are scores of us who see this and feel the immediate inspiration to recreate our old freak sites.

In created one a few years ago dedicated to a video game I played as a child: https://laserblast.neocities.org/ I had to use CSS to implement a equivalent.

That camera with the stack of flashbulbs tho! Used to see that sort of thing at weddings and other family events all the time in the 80s.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In created one a few years ago dedicated to a video game I played as a child: https://laserblast.neocities.org/ I had to use CSS to implement a equivalent.

That camera with the stack of flashbulbs tho! Used to see that sort of thing at weddings and other family events all the time in the 80s.

Yes they were fun. Especially when your older brother wakes you up in the middle of the night by flashing one on your face.

I don’t remember them by the mid 80s. I remember them in the 70s and early 80s.

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, the shame - but I will out myself. In the aftermath of the Barings bank collapse in 1995, and its purchase for £1 by ING, its private equity arm (Baring Private Equity Partners) - which was neither directly connected with the bank's activities, nor affected by them - wanted to ringfence itself from ING influence. It decided to commission a website and, I am still not sure how, I was asked to pitch for the job. I…

I had a look. Wasn't as bad as I expected based on what you'd said. In fact, for a 90s corporate website it looks fine. Nice job winning the pitch!

Ha! That's decent of you. I was actually quite proud of the site weight. The orange triangle gifs - one pointing to the right and another pointing downwards - weighed almost nothing, and everything nav-wise was optimised (transparency out of background colour) to the max. The nav font was their bespoke version of frutiger, hence the need for graphical nav elements.

When it all worked, there used to be historical quotes, which I'd culled from a privately published Barings history book I found in their offices, that appeared under the l-h nav elements. One, from Cardinal Richelieu, referred to Barings as one of the "three major powers in Europe".

The book also related how Barings joined forces with its archenemy Rothschilds (under the auspices of the British Relief Association [1]) to provide relief to Ireland during the potato famine, in the absence of meaningful action from the British government.

I really enjoyed the work, and learnt a lot of history.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Relief_Association

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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post #5

This is amazing. I miss the days when the web truly felt like a vast tapestry of people energetically letting their freak flags fly. Pave paradise, put up... an algorithm to maximize engagement.

Algorithms and the dev community today might freak out themselves if someone used one too many divs, or a bit to much JavaScript… God help them if they saw the blink tag…

There's never been used as much javascript in the history of time as right now, and it's never been doing as little as it does right now :P

Because.. why use a perfectly good browser to render your html when you can implement another, lesser browser within the browser in javascript and have THAT render your html, but badly.

Also, divs and css for layouts suck, TABLES is the way to go :)

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Ok, this is a long shot, but if any forum is likely to know, it's HN. I first got my start in web development when I was around 8 (early 2000s) thanks to a very large (or at least it was to an 8 year old) purple book on HTML. There was one passing mention of how animated GIFs might be added to websites with an IMG tag. The example of the animated GIF they showed (they exploded the frames) reminded me of this image [0…

I got you fam: https://www.amazon.com/Yourself-Publishing-Professional-Refe...

Re: A Love Letter to Geocities Sites

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to admit that the internet was more fun when it was enthusiasts expressing themselves, though. That’s the point of the post.

Yes :) perhaps people here who haven't seen it should go check out https://neocities.org/

There's so many amazing sites people have made on Neocities. I personally didn't have the ethos and dedication to stick with it, but the fusion of creativity and technical skill makes it something else.
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